"Freedom From Human Regulations Through Life With Christ" Colossians 2

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  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi all,

    Prompted by a comment in this thread I though I would start this one.

    Here's the post

    I sort of think it's more than that. But I don't think it's all the petty rules and regulations the GB puts forward.

    I think we have to be pro-active in applying Jesus counsel, but is there more?

    So here is the biblical response. I think it speaks volumes! See what you think.

    Colossians 2:6-23 (New International Version)

    Freedom From Human Regulations Through Life With Christ
    6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, 7 rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

    8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.

    9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. 11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

    13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

    16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19 He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

    20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21 "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

    Blessings,

    Stephen

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Now, if Jesus offered up the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added", why do religions continue expecting members to offer up additional sacrifices? You know, sacrifices of money, time, and energy? Like "the fruitages of the lips", or a "self sacrificing spirit"? Doesn't that add to the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added"? Or do they try to void the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added" to create need for additional sacrifices?

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hello WTW,

    Some good points here :)

    Now, if Jesus offered up the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added", why do religions continue expecting members to offer up additional sacrifices? You know, sacrifices of money, time, and energy? Like "the fruitages of the lips", or a "self sacrificing spirit"? Doesn't that add to the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added"?

    This sums it up.

    Or do they try to void the "perfect sacrifice, to which nothing ever need be added" to create need for additional sacrifices?

    JW think they are saved by Jesus and "works", following the WT, going to meetings, doing the "preaching" etc.

    Same deal with other legalistic religions, gotta to pray to Mecca five times a day, or to confess to the priest religiously etc.

    The thing is, salvation is free and a gift. You cannot buy it or earn it.

    Ephesians 2:8-10 (New International Version)

    8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

    That said, there are works created. No-one has to do them to be saved but once the Holy Spirit comes to live within you, He brings the heart of God for those who are in pain and lost. Also, the fruit starts to grow, not by "working it up" but as a natural thing. If you have become an apple tree then apples soon start to appear.

    Ask those who were former JWs here and are now born again that are here. It is the different between night and day.

    There are those who will be saved without works.

    1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (New International Version)

    11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. 14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

    JWs are build on the foundation of the WT, not Jesus.

    There are those who are building on Jesus but not with lasting materials i.e. they are doing works but not those of worth. The work that is of worth is that which "God prepared in advance".

    Blessings,

    Stephen

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