Israel's Egyptian Exodus to the "promised land" only TWO saw it...same with Armagedon?

by Witness 007 9 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Witness 007
    Witness 007

    How many of Jehovah's Israelites REALLY saw the promised land? Only the two spies out of the original 3 million! {Joshua, Caleb} Moses, Aaron, and the rest of the Jews were killed off or left to die for their insolence and disobiedience! Jehovah was ALWAYS striking down his "holy nation"sending poisonious snakes and Quail meat, sicknesses, fire from heaven and failed war battles to thin them out!

    If this was to occur with Armagedon and the 6 million "faithful"Witnesses it would be a hell of a thing.

  • Satanus

    It's a poor record for yhwh. In the panteist worldview, everyone automatically makes it back to the source, although the road is long.


  • Mad Dawg
    Mad Dawg

    Also all those under 20 years of age would see the promised land (Numbers 14:29), which would be the majority of them given their life expectancy.

  • glenster
  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    Rubbish. It was not just 2 spies out of the original 3 millions Israelites who saw the promised land. See Mad Dawg's post.

  • Borgia

    Rubbisch .... The Exodus did not even occur as it is told.

    But assuming for the sake of argument it did .... it means that the ONLY of the ORIGINAL generation were: Levites and those two spies AND some of those who were supposed to be of the "great crowd"of non Isrealite co-sojourners.



  • Farkel

    :Rubbisch .... The Exodus did not even occur as it is told.

    That is correct. There is virtually NO evidence outside the Bible that the Jews were in Egyptian captivity for 400 years. There is virtually zero evidence any of their encampments been found. One would think that a half-million people camping every night for 14,600 days would leave SOME traces of their existence behind, but there is nothing.

    So, the thread question should be "since there was NO Egyptian Exodus and therefore NO one to spend 40 years trying to find the "promised land", would that mean there will be no JW exodus from this wicked earth to see the Paradise earth?"

    Yes it does. NO one.


  • Mad Dawg
    Mad Dawg

    From here:

    Another argument that the Exodus never occurred is that there are no signs that the Israelites wandered in the Sinai desert for 40 years. However, we must remember that during the Exodus the Israelites were forced to live nomadic lives. No longer did they reside in villages with sturdy houses and artifacts that could have survived as evidence. Instead, in the wilderness environment, every item had to be used to its fullest capacity and then, if possible, recycled. Also, the portable tent encampments during those 40 years would have left few or no traces that could be found 3, 400 years later, especially in the shifting desert sands.

    Interestingly, recent satellite infrared technology has revealed ancient caravan routes in the Sinai. George Stephen, a satellite-image analyst, discovered evidence in the satellite photographs of ancient tracks made by “a massive number of people” going “from the Nile Delta straight south along the east bank of the Gulf of Suez and around the tip of the Sinai Peninsula.” He also saw huge campsites along the route, one that fits the description given in the book of Exodus (Price 1997:137).

    Could this evidence be a coincidence? If nothing else at least it shows that a large number of people could be sustained in the same region and on the same path as that taken by the Israelites during the Exodus.

  • ldrnomo

    We are in the promised land, hell anytime I want I can go to the grocery store and pick up some milk and honey.


  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    A possibility is to look at the story of the Jews under Moses from the viewpoint of the Babylonian Captivity.

    In other words, the removal from Egypt and the provision of a Promised Land is reflected in the mirrored experience of their removal from that same Promised Land and also in the instruction given at the time of the Captivity to not return to Egypt. The wandering of the escapees from Egypt near the Promised Land but not being able to enter there has a mirrored imagery in the experiences of the Exiles at Babylon.


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