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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-28-09 WT Study (April 15, 2009, pages 24-28)(GREATER MOSES)

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    APPRECIATING THE GREATER MOSES
    "Jehovah God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.--ACTS 3:22





    Is Jesus your mediator? What is a WTS prophet?


    START OF ARTICLE

    Q1. How has Jesus Christ influenced history?

    TWO thousand years ago, the birth of a certain male child caused a multitude of angels in heaven to praise God in the hearing of some shepherds. (Luke 2:8-14) Thirty years later, that child, now an adult, began a ministry that lasted just three and a half years and yet changed history. The noted 19th-century historian Philip Scaff was moved to state of this young man: "Without writing a single line, he set more pens in motion, and furnished themes for more sermons, orations, discussions, learned volumes, works of art, and songs of praise, than the whole army of great men of ancient and modern times." That remarkable young man was, of course, Jesus Christ.

    First why is Philip Schaff someone worthy to quote? When, where is this quote from? Why quote a 19th century historian for a 21st century article? What about the Koran and the Muslim culture?


    Q2. What did the apostle John say about Jesus and His ministry?

    The apostle John wrote an account of Jesus' ministry and said in conclusion: "There are, in fact, many other things also which Jesus did, which if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world itself could not contain the scrolls written." (John 21:25) John knew that he could record only a fraction of all that Jesus said and did during those eventful three and half years. Still, the historic events reported by John in his Gospel are of immense value.

    If we recorded all we said and did for 3 1/2 years how much space would it take? 16 hours x 3.5 lunar years = 20,160 hours = how many average size book, 1 page = 1 hour?

    Q3. How can we deepen our insight into Jesus' role in God's purpose?

    Besides the four important Gospel accounts, other Bible passages provide faith-strengthening details about Jesus' life. For instance, the Bible accounts of certain faithful men who lived before Jesus contain information that deepens our insight into Jesus' role in God's purpose. Let us consider some of these.

    Another opportunity to dive into OT accounts rather than NT writings.


    Men of God Who Prefigured the Christ

    Q4,5. Who foreshadowed Jesus, and in what ways?

    4) John and the other three Gospel writers point to Moses, David, and Solomon as men who foreshadowed Jesus as God's Anointed One and designated King. In what way did those ancient servants of God provide foregleams of Jesus, and what can we learn from these accounts?

    5) In brief, the Bible tells us that Moses was a prophet, a mediator, and a deliverer. So is Jesus. David was a shepherd and a king who conquered Israel's enemies. Jesus too is a shepherd and a conquering king. (Ezek.
    37:24,25) While still faithful, Solomon was a wise ruler, and under his kingship Israel enjoyed peace. (1 Ki. 4:25,29) Jesus too is supremely wise and is called "Prince of Peace." (Isa. 9:6) Clearly, Christ Jesus' role resemble that of those earlier men but Jesus' place in God's purpose is superlative. First, let us compare Jesus with Moses and see how such a comparison helps us to appreciate more fully Jesus' role in God's purpose.

    So does the WTS picture Moses as a mediator for all or just anointed jws?

    David was a conquering king but God gave the "privilege" of building the temple to his son Solomon because of the "blood" of battle on David's hands. How does that picture Jesus being able to build the "Christian" temple?

    Did Solomon's time enjoy peace because he had made so many political marriage alliances with non-Israelite nations, a big no-no?


    http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/mediator.htm

    Moses--A Forerunner of Jesus

    Q6. How did the apostle Peter explain the necessity of listening to Jesus?

    Shortly after Pentecost 33 C.E., the apostle Peter quote a prophecy by Moses that was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Peter was standing before a crowd of worshippers in the temple. The people were "surprised out of the wits" when Peter and John healed a beggar who was lame from birth, and they all ran to investigate. Peter explained that this astonishing act was a result of Jehovah's holy spirit operating through Jesus Christ. Then, quoting from the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament for some), he said: "In fact, Moses said, 'Jehovah God will raise up for you from among your brothers a
    prophet like me. You must listen to him according to all the things he speaks to you."--Acts 3:11,22,23; read

    Deuteronomy 18:15,18,19.


    Notice how by using snippets of scriptures in a paragraph, the WTS lends to appearance that the whole

    paragraph is part of the Bible. Not much different from the "Bible" dramas that add characters, events, and dialogue to

    the Bible that were never in the Bible.

    Also, the insertion of "Jehovah" in Acts follows the WTS rule that this occurs in the OT quotation....but does that mean

    that every insertion of "Jehovah" by the WTS in the NT portion of the Bible follows this rule?


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    *** Rbi8 p. 1564 1D The Divine Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures ***

    RESTORING THE DIVINE NAME


    Throughout the centuries many translations of parts or of all the Christian Greek Scriptures have been made into

    Hebrew. Such translations, designated in this work by “J” with a superior number, have restored the divine name to the

    inspired Christian Greek Scriptures in various places. They have restored the divine name not only when coming upon

    quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures but also in other places where the texts called for such restoration.



    Q7. Why could Peter's audience understand his statements about a prophet greater than Moses?

    Those words of Moses were likely familiar to Peter's audience. As Jews, they had a high regard for Moses. (Deut.

    34:10) With keen anticipation, they looked forward to the coming of a prophet greater than Moses. That prophet would

    prove to be not just a messiah, an anointed one of God like Moses, but the Messiah, "the Christ of God, the

    Chosen One" of Jehovah.--Luke 23:35; Heb. 11:26.

    Doesn't the WTS consider themselves a prophet greater than Moses, anointed, and the chosen ones, even

    "the Christ"?


    http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/prophet.htm

    http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovahs-witnesses-are-christ

    Similarities Between Jesus and Moses

    Q8. What are some similarities between the life of Moses and Jesus?

    In some respects, the earthly life of Jesus resembled the life of Moses. For instance, as babes, both Moses and

    Jesus escaped death at the hands of a tyrannical ruler. (Ex. 1:22-2:10; Matt. 2:7-14) In addition, both were 'called out of

    Egypt.' The prophet Hosea stated: "When Israel was a boy, then I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son." (Hos.

    11:1) Hosea's words pointed back to the time when the nation of Israel, under its divinely appointed leader, Moses, was

    lead out of Egypt. (Ex. 4:22,23; 12:29-37) However, Hosea's words referred not only to a past event but also to a future

    one. His words were a prophecy that was fulfilled when Joseph and Mary returned from Egypt with Jesus after the

    death of King Herod.--Matt. 2:15,19-23.

    Did you know that the WTS compares it being freed from "Babylon the Great" in 1919 to coming out of

    Egypt?


    Quote

    *** w83 7/1 p. 22 par. 17 The Live Men of Faith Who Will Never Die ***

    Such non-Israelite companions picture those today who hear the message of God’s Kingdom in the hands of his

    Greater Cyrus, Jesus Christ, and have associated themselves with the remnant of spiritual Israelites since their release

    from the control of modern Babylon the Great and her worldly allies in the postwar year of 1919. They also resemble

    the non-Israelites, “a vast mixed company,” that accompanied the Israelites when these left Egypt under the leadership

    of Moses in 1513 B.C.E.—Exodus 12:37, 38; compare Revelation 7:9-17.



    Q9. (a) What miracles did Moses and Jesus perform? (b) Give other similarities between Jesus and Moses. (See

    the box "Additional Ways in Which Jesus was Like Moses," on page 26.)


    Both Moses and Jesus performed miracles, thus demonstrating that they had Jehovah's backing. Indeed, Moses was

    the first human on record to perform miracles. (Ex. 4:1-9) For example, Moses performed miracles involving water

    when at his command the waters of the Nile and its reedy pools became blood, the Red Sea was parted, and water

    came gusing out of rock in the desert. (Ex. 7:19-21; 14:21; 17:5-7) Jesus too performed miracles involving water. His

    very first miracle was that of turning water into wine at a wedding feast. (John 2:1-11) Later, he calmed the turbulent Sea

    of Galilee. And on one occasion, he even walked on water! (Matt. 8:23-27; 14-23-25) Some other similarities between

    Moses and the Greater Moses, Jesus, can be seen in the box on page 26.

    Box on page 26

    Additional Ways in Which Jesus Was Like Moses


    Both left behind high positions for the sake of serving Jehovah and his people.--2 Cor. 8:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 11:24-26.

    Both served as anointed ones, or 'christs.'--Mark 14:16,62; John 4:25,26; Heb. 11:26.

    Both came in the name of Jehovah.--Ex. 3:13-16; John 5:43; 17:4,6,26.

    Both displayed meekness.--Num. 12:3; Matt. 11:28-30.

    Both were involved in feeding multitudes.--Ex. 16:12; John 6:48-51.

    Both served as judge and lawgiver.--Ex. 18:13; Mal. 4:4; John 5:22,23; 15:10.

    Both were entrusted with headship over God's house.--Num. 12:7; Heb. 3:2-6.

    Both are described as faithful witnesses of Jehovah--Heb. 11:24-29; 12:1; Rev. 1:5.

    After the death of Moses and the man Jesus, God disposed of their bodies.--Deut. 3:5,6; Luke 24:1-3; Acts 2:31; 1

    Cor. 15:50; Jude 9.

    I can see how the WTS can and has applied most of these to their anointed FDS. But while they can stretch

    that Jesus is a witness of Jah, the references to Jesus' followers in the NT calls them witness of Jesus or Christ.


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    (Acts 1:

    both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.”

    (1 Corinthians 1:6) 6 even as the witness about the Christ has been rendered firm among YOU,

    (Revelation 1:9) 9 I John, YOUR brother and a sharer with YOU in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in

    company with Jesus, came to be in the isle that is called Patmos for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus.

    (Revelation 12:17) 17 And the dragon grew wrathful at the woman, and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of

    her seed, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness to Jesus.

    (Revelation 17:6) 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the

    witnesses of Jesus.. . .

    (Revelation 19:10) 10 At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! All I

    am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing to Jesus. Worship God; for the

    bearing witness to Jesus is what inspires prophesying.”




    Appreciate Christ as a Prophet

    Q10. What is a true prophet, and why was Moses one?

    Most people think of a prophet as someone who foretells the future, but that is only part of a prophet's responsibility. A

    true prophet is an inspired spokesman for Jehovah, one who proclaims "the magnificent things of God." (Acts

    2:11,16,17) Among other things, his prophesying could include announcing future events, revealing aspects of

    Jehovah's purpose, or proclaiming God's judgments. Moses was such a prophet. He foretold each of the Ten Plagues

    that befell Egypt. He introduced the Law covenant at Sinai. And he instructed the nation in God's will. Yet, a prophet

    greater than Moses was to come eventually.

    http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/prophet.htm

    So is the WTS saying that there are an "inspired" spokesman for God? "could" include annoucing future

    events.....


    Q11. How did Jesus fulfill the role of a prophet greater than Moses?

    Later in the first century, Zechariah acted as a prophet in revealing God's purpose regarding his son, John. (Luke 1:76)

    That son became John the Baptizer (why not Baptist), who announced the coming of the long-awaited prophet greater

    than Moses--Jesus Christ. (John 1:23-26) As a prophet, Jesus foretold many things. For example, he spoke about his

    own death, foretelling how he would die, where he would die, and at whose hands he would die. (Matt. 20:17-19) To the

    surprise of his listeners, Jesus also foretold the destruction of Jerusalem with its temple. (Mark 13:1,2) His prophecies

    reach right down to our own time.--Matt. 24:3-41.

    Why not John the Baptist? Where does the WTS provide proof that these prophecies "reach right down to

    our time" and were not just fulfilled in the first century?


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    *** w93 8/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
    It does not appear, however, that we must distinguish between these ways of referring to John. At Mark 6:24, 25, we

    read about Salome: “She went out and said to her mother: ‘What should I ask for?’ She said: ‘The head of John the

    baptizer.’ Immediately she went in with haste to the king and made her request, saying: ‘I want you to give me right away

    on a platter the head of John the Baptist.’” The two designations were used interchangeably.

    Some people might understand “the Baptist” according to the second definition in a dictionary: “A member or adherent

    of an evangelical Protestant denomination marked by congregational polity and baptism by immersion of believers

    only.” John certainly was not that.



    Q12. (a) How did Jesus lay the foundation for a global preaching campaign? (b) Why do we follow Jesus' example

    today?


    In addiiton to being a prophet, Jesus was a preacher and a teacher. He preached the good news of God's Kingdom,

    and no one spoke with greater boldness than he did. (Luke 4:16-21,43) As a teacher, he had no equal. "Never has

    another man spoken like this," said some who heard him. (John 7:46) Jesus was zealous in his efforts to spread the

    good news, and he inspired his followers with that same zeal for the Kingdom. Thus, he laid the foundation for a global

    preaching and teaching campaign. (Matt. 28:18-20; Acts 5:42) Last year, some seven million of Christ's followers

    (ONLY JWS) spent about 1,500,000,000 hours in preaching the good news of the Kingdom and teaching interested

    ones Bible truths. Do you have a meaningful share in that work?

    Bible truths = WT truths So are only 7,000,000 people preaching the good news of the kingdom? Check

    this website: www.forum18.org. What is an unmeaningful share? How many hours do jws have to spend placing WT

    publications for it to be meaningful? How many hours does it take to convert one jw? 5,139!!! Average hours per jw

    per year 10 x 12 = 120 hours


    http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/numbers.JPG

    Q13. What will help us to "stay awake"?

    There is no question that Jehovah fulfilled the prophecy to raise up a prophet like Moses. How does that knowledge

    affect you? Does it give you more confidence in the fulfillment of inspired prophecies that have to do with our

    immediate future? Yes, meditating on the example of the Greater Moses moves us to "stay awake and keep our

    senses" as to what God will SOON do.--1 Thess. 5:2,6.

    Confidence in prophecies like 1874--Christ's presence; 1914--the end; 1925--the end; 1975--the

    end?


    Value Christ As Mediator

    Q14. How was Moses a mediator between the Israelites and God?

    Like Moses, Jesus was a mediator. A mediator acts as a bridge between two parties. Moses mediated the Law

    covenant between Jehovah and the Israelites. If the sons of Jacob obeyed the laws of God, they would remain God's

    special property, his congregation. (Ex. 19:3-8) That covenant stayed in force from 1513 B.C.E. until the first century

    C.E.

    Who does the WTS teach is the primary congregation of God?

    Quote

    *** w07 8/15 p. 19 Do You Remember? ***
    The primary application is to the composite group of anointed Christians (in some texts Christ is included).



    Q15. How is Jesus a superior mediator?

    In 33 C.E., Jehovah initiated a better covenant with a new Israel, "the Israel of God," made up of anointed Christians.

    (Gal. 6:16) While the covenant mediated by Moses included laws written by God on stone, the covenant mediated by

    Jesus is superior. Its laws are inscribed by God on human hearts. (Read 1 Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 8:10.) Thus, "the

    Israel of God" is now God's special property, 'a nation producing the fruits' of the Messianic Kingdom. (Matt. 21:43)

    Members of that spiritual nation are the participants in that new covenant. Still, they are not the only ones to benefit

    from it. Untold multitudes, even many who at present are asleep in death, will receive everlasting blessings because of

    that superlative covenant.

    But here is a scripture-twisting example of the WTS. What does 1 Timothy 2:5 say? "For there is one God,

    and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus." Does it say some men or some humans? The WTS

    applies it to prayer; are they suggesting that only some can approach Jesus in prayer?


    Quote

    *** w75 7/1 p. 402 par. 8 Coming to the Hearer of Prayer ***
    To communicate readily with the heavenly Father, one must accept Christ Jesus as Lord. Peace with God can come

    only through the appointed way, the ransom provision by the Lord Jesus. (Matt. 20:28; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6)



    Esteem Christ as Deliverer

    Q16. (a) In what ways did Jehovah use Moses to deliver Israel? (b) According to Exodus 14:13, who is the Source of

    salvation?


    On their last night before the Exodus, some of the offspring of Israel were in grave danger. Soon, God's angel would

    pass through the land of Egypt, killing all the firstborn. Jehovah told Moses that the firstborn of Israel would be saved if

    the Israelites took the blood of the Passover lamb and sprinkled it on the lintels and doorposts of their doorways. (Ex.

    12:1-13, 21-23) So it proved to be. Later, the whole nation was in serious danger. They were trapped between the Red

    Sea and the pursuing Egyptian war chariots. Jehovah again provided deliverance through Moses, who miraculously

    parted the waters of that sea.--Ex. 14:13,21.

    Yes, hidden in the word "firstborn" is the concept of children, babies. At least the WTS says that these ones

    have the hope of the resurrection unlike the babies that died during the flood, at Sodom and Gomorrah, and at

    Armageddon who will descend into everlasting destruction never to live again.


    Q17,18. In what ways is Jesus a greater deliverer than Moses?

    17. Great as those acts of deliverance were, the deliverance Jehovah performed through Jesus is much greater. Jesus

    is the means by which obedient ones are delivered from slavery to sin. (Rom. 5:12,13) And that deliverance is "an

    everlasting deliverance." (Heb. 9:11,12) The name Jesus means "Jehovah is Salvation." Jesus, as our Deliverer, or

    Savior, not only rescues us from our past sins but also opens the way for us to enjoy a better future. By delivering them

    from slavery to sin, Jesus saves his followers from the wrath of God and brings them into a loving relationship with

    Jehovah.--Matt. 1:21.

    obedient = following WTS teachings only.

    his (Jesus) followers = ONLY JWS

    Do jws have a relationship with Jesus?


    18. The deliverance from sin that Jesus provides will in due time include freedom from its grim effects--sickness and

    even death. To visualize what that will mean, consider what happened when Jesus went to the home of a certain man

    named Jairus, whose 12-year old daughter had died. Jesus reassured Jairus: "Have no fear, only put forth faith, and

    she will be saved." (Luke 8:41,42,49,50) True to his words, the girl rose from the dead! Can you imagine the joy of her

    parents? Then you have an idea of the surpassing joy that will be ours (ONLY JWS) when "all those in the memorial

    tombs will hear [Jesus'] voice and come out" in the resurrection. (John 5:28.29) Truly, Jesus is a Savior, our

    Deliverer!--Read Acts 5:31; Titus 1:4; Rev. 7:10.

    IN DUE TIME, 1914, 1925, 1975...........

    Is faith required for healing to take place per the WTS?

    But what about all the 12-year old girls that are not baptized as jws when Armageddon strikes...down to Gehenna into

    internal destruction for them!


    Q19,20. (a) How does meditating on Jesus' role as the Greater Moses affect us? (b) What will the next article

    consider?


    19. Knowing that we can be instrumental in helping people to benefit from Jesus' saving acts impels us to share in the

    preaching and teaching work. (Isa. 61:1-3) Further, meditating on Jesus' role as the Greater Moses deepens our

    confidence that he will deliver his followers (ONLY JWS) when he comes to execute judgment upon the wicked (ALL

    NON-JWS).--Matt. 25:31-34,41,46; Rev. 7:9,14.

    Quote

    *** w89 9/1 p. 19 par. 7 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium ***
    Only Jehovah’s Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the

    protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system

    dominated by Satan the Devil. (Revelation 7:9-17; 2 Corinthians 4:4) They will make up the “flesh” that Jesus Christ

    said would be saved through the worst tribulation of all human history.



    20. Yes, Jesus is the Greater Moses. He did many marvelous things that Moses could never have done. Jesus' words

    as a prophet and his actions as a mediator affect the entire human family. As a Deliverer, Jesus brings not temporary

    but eternal salvation for redeemable mankind. Yet, there is more to learn about Jesus from the faithful men of old. The

    next article will discuss how he was the Greater David and the Greater Solomon.

    redeemable mankind = only JWs and resurrected people, the rest are going straight to eternal

    destruction.


    Can You Explain?

    How is Jesus Greater than Moses as

    a prophet?
    a mediator?
    a deliverer?

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    I am trying a new way of formatting. I hope it works. Another boring article. A friend called and told me I
    had an opportunity of hearing a member of the writing committee explain how it is done. Too late, I already know two

    people in the writing department, Ray Franz and Barbara Anderson. That's on top of my several behind the scenes

    tours. I wonder if they know how Blondie dissects their attempts at Bible education?

    Summer is here and things are moving fast. The garden is popping and flowers are growing fast. The season of

    fireworks is upon us here. Starting from the 27th through the 4th there must be 10 fireworks events. No more the
    season of district conventions for us...enjoying missing them.


    Love, Blondie

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