How long do you think it will be until there is a tipping point, when the majority of the population realizes the scam of religions?
Do you think there is a plan in place to try to stop this from happening?
Souls Under the Altar
by cameo-d 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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lurk3r
Do you think there is a plan in place to try to stop this from happening?
Perhaps it is the guise of global "oneness".
How does the title of your thread relate to your questions Cameo?
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parakeet
cameo: How long do you think it will be until there is a tipping point, when the majority of the population realizes the scam of religions?
Do you think there is a plan in place to try to stop this from happening?
Your question assumes there will be a tipping point. Better back up a little.
Unless YOU have a plan to "stop this from hapening," I don't know of any such plan.
Why is this important to you?
You're a little more incoherent than usual this evening, cameo.
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BurnTheShips
How long do you think it will be until there is a tipping point
If this were to happen, I would stand (almost) alone.
BRING IT.
BTS
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cameo-d
How does the title of your thread relate to your questions Cameo?
I was thinking of that scripture about the souls under the altar that keep asking "how long? How long? How long until our blood is avenged?"
And I am thinking, with all the information that has been exposed, especially over the past 15 years, surely many people have had to take note.
There have been TV exposes on the fake religious healers, the high lifestyle of embezzling preachers, the lies and shams of charities that do not do what they propose, pedophile problems in all of the churches, focus on cults, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
There has been much written; respected scientific and literary journals that expose the absurdity of religious "facts", newspaper articles which give focus on life adversities caused by religion, etc. We have archeological updates that reveal more and more concrete evidence and leave us to connect the dots of opposition between truth and superstition.
The general population has been exposed to many opportunities to discover that they have had the wool pulled over their eyes through religious indoctrination. Religion is no more than another political control, albeit Western shamanism; mysticism by any other name is still primitive superstition and manipulation.
The internet is a great educator. Sure, there is a lot of stupidity out there and false premises, still. But when people can come together to a website like this and hash through what is not true, each exposing and questioning, putting our collective heads together, then we learn to weigh the evidence and make better judgments.
Truth, whatever it is, is veiled. Sometimes the most we can hope to do is rip a few of the veils obscuring it.
What I am wondering, is that with soooo much info out there, in so many avenues of communication, how long will it be until people unravel the bondage of religions?
A while back I read a survey that churches have now lost more than 1/3 of their converts/parishoners. Surely that hurts their coffers a bit. When it gets to 50% will there be a fast tipping point to create the demise of all these lying controlling institutions?
How long before religions crumble to their demise because people wise up and break the bonds?
Do you think there is a plan in place to try to stop this from happening?
Perhaps it is the guise of global "oneness".
That's a good answer. I suppose the ones who are left sitting in the pews will be manipulated to lean in another, more inclusive direction. And perhaps the malcontents who still seek a more perfect 'religion' will exchange one control for another that they deem more congenial and unifying.
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lurk3r
I suppose the ones who are left sitting in the pews will be manipulated to lean in another, more inclusive direction.
There are many, in their ignorance, that would choose death.
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cameo-d
Cameo-d: I suppose the ones who are left sitting in the pews will be manipulated to lean in another, more inclusive direction.
Lurk3r: There are many, in their ignorance, that would choose death.
I think the ones more likely to be silenced are the ones who are trying to expose what's going on. We are up against Big Business and Political control.
Those who are in the pews are safe.
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lurk3r
With the many thoughts available to us on a given day, I think we are still "confined". While I am still understanding many things, I do believe freedom is an illusion of sorts. Take for example, the "American Dream". This "dream", is nothing more
than a goal. The masses pursue it, because this is what they are shown. The thing is, we only get what we are given. Beyond what we are given or shown, what more can we seek?
A good friend and open thinker went for a meal today. We had a great chat, and have discussed many things about the world and whats in it. She is not religious, and it is refreshing to speak to her about things and hear how she sees them. Lately
we have beentalking about "global oneness", and the pursuit in which the western world is giving this. Eckhart Tolle's book, The Power of Now is one book that has come up in conversation between us. I like it, but am suspicious of it's intentions.
She loves it, as it "wakes people up" and exposes religion for what it is by using your own mind and "thinking for yourself". I agree, but there has to be more to it. Call me paranoid, but nothing is what it seems, and this site is evidence of that.
We are on the brink of a "New World". It remains to be seen. One can only speculate on the future, and what it holds. Since it has been thousands of years since Jesus was here, I'm going with history in saying that it could be much longer than
one would prefer that he returns. In the meantime, were on our own in one way or another.
Technology is key I believe ,to the world we live in today. Nasa and the military are the ones who hold this key. Current technology that we make use of...is old. Stealth jets that crash have manafacturing dates on them, and unless these number
are intentionally manipulated, THEY are old. Some of these jets that crash, have dates on them that go back to the 80's. Technology increases exponentially, and i really think it impossible to even concieve what actually IS possible, considering
what we are SHOWN. Make sense at all?
In the pew, or out, could be one and the same. possibly? Either way, the higher ups are still going to have the control, because they have the knowledge, because they can see.
your thoughts?
lrkr
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cameo-d
"global oneness"........ I like it, but am suspicious of it's intentions.
Yes, I agree. It all sounds good on paper. Little people buy the idea because we want peace and unity.
We want to do our part to restore the balance of the planet and goodwill among all nations.
But we are not in charge; never have been.
If the globalists in power were sincere, the past 8 years would not have happened.
It could have been stopped!
But does this plan in theory really mean what we think it does?
Could this idealism when brought to fruition, have a very twisted meaning to the PTB?
'One world' sounds rather totalitarian, don't you think?
And someone always has to be in charge.
Who will be the kings and priests?
Sounds like it is just a new power structure to me.
What we think it means and what it will be when implemented could be two very different things!
Global oneness is simply the guise of restructuring political/religious control.
Too many people have realized the lies and manipulation for what it is and "GO" is the damage control plan.
Some things are being 'staged' to bring this about more rapidly, before the cat is totally out of the bag.
Many people won't realize what has happened until it's too late.
we're on our own in one way or another.
I want to believe in divine intervention.
But suppose the "divine intervention" is a malevolent force?
Suppose it's not superman coming back to save us?
Suppose it is, instead, evil angel/aliens coming to "harvest" a dumbed down slave class and kill off those who threaten their plan?
If this should be true, then why are we to believe that these creatures are the only other species in the universe?
Why should we not believe that there is a greater power that will eventually come to our rescue?
How do we know there are not other galactic wars going on?
I have read of a plan from the Arkadian Society where a planned event will be staged.
These evil creatures will reveal themselves in some manner and claim they are our creators.
While they may have inteferred with human development and caused quantum leaps through genetic experiments, should we believe them without question?
Hopefully, our experiences in bondage here will have taught us to question and give critical thought to any such presentations.
I think "holy spirit" works hand in hand with intuition and rationalization in recognizing what is true and what isn't.
We can only develop this "holy spirit" nature by seeking truth and standing up for it without compromise.
Will it be that we have to deal with these evil forces before any rescue comes?
Or will it be that we ourselves, humans alone, will have to depend on ourselves to save the human race?
This planet is so toxic that I question how long human life could be sustained here.
Children are developing mutating deformities because of spent uranium in the soils. We are exposed to too many contaminates all around us. Animal life is rapidly reaching extention levels.
It would be eons before the earth could regenerate and "cleanse" itself of these plagues.
It begs the question...is life on earth cyclic? Do humans return to the stone age? Will there indeed be divine intervention? And will divine intervention be pre-empted by a false claim?
believe freedom is an illusion of sorts. Take for example, the "American Dream". This "dream", is nothing more
than a goal. The masses pursue it, because this is what they are shown.
Yes. This is just another manipulation caused through repetition and visualization techniques.
The American Dream was a plan of capitalism.
You "thought" you could work hard and build a good future and comfortable life.
But was it ever really that way for most of us? Or was it just continual striving?
I would venture to say that with the majority of Americans more than 50 % of income went to political and religious programs. (That includes charities who never did live up to what they promoted.)
The new social order will be "Equality and Sharing" under the NWO. Fact is, haven't most of us always shared? Haven't we always had compassion to help or give to those less fortunate? Will it now be forced, mandated, and taken? It won't be obvious; it will be cleverly instituted. You won't even realize it is being done. Just like WT puts forth new changes. Tip Toe Totalitarism.
Will the NWO be successful?
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The original intention of my question was to ask...how much more pressure and exposure can religions take before it reaches critical mass/tipping point and it all comes tumbling down?
Can this happen before the NWO plans are achieved?
Wouldn't this throw a monkey wrench into their smooth transition?