WT admits to being under Satan's control

by AndDontCallMeShirley 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley
    on page 17 of the August 15, 1991 Watchtower it says:
    "In the year 1919… [the Society ] came out of Satan’s organization…. "
    These are amazing admissions. For, according to their interpretation of Matthew 24:45-47, in 1918 Jesus was checking to make sure that the Society qualified as God’s organization, and yet he found them involved in Satan’s organization ever since he arrived in 1914!
    "[Jehovah’s Witnesses] sold themselves because of wrong practices and came into bondage to the world empire of false religion [Satan’s organization…] An outstanding instance of this occurred during World War I of 1914-1918." --November 15, 1980 Watchtower, pages 26, 27.
    -from "Captives To A Concept"
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    Question: considering the above quote, what made the WT different from any other religion at the time? ALL were under Satan's control including, by it's own admission, the WT itself.
     
    Jesus could've have simply thrown a dart at a board and gotten the same result as making a conscious choice to go with WT.
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    To add to the above quote, note this:
     
     

    "In modern times, it began its fulfillment in the year 1919 when the remnant of spiritual Israel came out of Satan’s organization and started earnestly looking for Jehovah and his goodness. They found that "David their king" had been reigning in the person of Jesus Christ in heavenly power since 1914. Under his heavenly supervision, they enthusiastically took up the announcing of this good news to the nations. Thus they began to fulfill the commission recorded at Matthew 24:14: "This good news of the [established] kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

     

    At this time the WT's official position was that Jesus returned in 1874 and began ruling in 1878, NOT 1914. The 1874 date was not officially changed in print until 1943.

    Note the [ ] brackets around "established". Yet another WT addition to promote its unique, and unscriptural, theology. 

     

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Shirley - "...according to their interpretation of Matthew 24:45-47, in 1918 Jesus was checking to make sure that the Society qualified as God’s organization, and yet he found them involved in Satan’s organization..."

    Maybe they wrote that as a backup in case anyone in the know (like Ray Franz) called them on all the weird shit they believed back in 1918.

    Or am I giving them too much credit?

  • sowhatnow
    sowhatnow

    wow.    we all sure sat at the kingdom hall with jello for brains. 

    so,  in 1991, they printed the statement that in 1919 they were under the influence of false ideas....

    wow. i have got to go print that up.

    so now, how is it no one questioned  the claim that the teachings were from God? 

    or were they from   A  god??  

    the bible says its wrong to assume....


  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    @ Vidiot: Maybe they wrote that as a backup in case anyone in the know (like Ray Franz) called them on all the weird shit they believed back in 1918...Or am I giving them too much credit? 

     

    No, you're not giving them too much credit. The irony is, in WTs attempts to yet-again cover its butt to sidestep its checkered past,  it inevitably shoots itself in the foot... again. Sadly, the only ones who fail to notice are JWs themselves. Everyone else is laughing their collective a**es off.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    "In the year 1919… [the Society ] came out of Satan’s organization…. "

    Could they be referring to coming out of Christendom as it were ?.

    Out of false religion into the approving light of Jesus Christ.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

     Could they be referring to coming out of Christendom as it were ?

     

    Of course they were. Everything except WT is "Satan's organization". The world empire of false religion includes Christendom.

     

    The other laughable part of the quote above is this:

     "... it began its fulfillment in the year 1919 when the remnant of spiritual Israel came out of Satan’s organization and started earnestly looking for Jehovah and his goodness."

     

    Uh, WT's whole argument is that they already had to be doing this up to and including 1914 when Jesus began inspecting all the religions of the world to determine which one would operate his publishing, pedophile protection and real estate development empire.

    CT Russell taught that Armageddon was coming in 1914, so obviously qualifying as Jesus' CEO would require that his organization had all their ducks in a row prior to the big global sweep-up day. WT revised all the pre-1914 events to aplly after 1914 when all of CTR's predictions failed. 

    How is it that WT didn't even begin to search for Jehovah until 1919, yet Jesus already allegedly approved of them four years earlier? Furthermore, WT claims that Jesus' approval had fallen on CT Russell in the 1876-1879 period to "revive long-lost Bible truths".  By WT's claim it, and it alone, was the only group that was paying attention and looking to 1914, and it was the only group "announcing Jehovah's Kingdom".

    The above quote implies that WT was NOT looking for Jehovah or his goodness for the first 40 years of it's existence. So, why would Jesus approve of them more than any other religion???

     

  • berrygerry
    berrygerry

    I would argue, then, that Jesus should have chosen the Anabaptists, and particularly, the Mennonites.

    The Mennonites, Hutterites, and Amish, scrupulously followed the Bible, diligently kept themselves separate from the world (most even living in religio colonies), AND WERE ARDENT PACIFISTS DURING "THE GREAT WAR."

    Mennonites today practice more of an "orphans and widows" Christianity then any other religion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonite

  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters

    ADCMS - I get dizzy from all their paradoxes and lies.....! 

    And yes, sowhatnow, Jello for brains for sure!  

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    bg: I would argue, then, that Jesus should have chosen the Anabaptists, and particularly, the Mennonites.

     

    Or, the Adventists.

    After all, a good portion of what Russell accepted and promoted as Bible "truth" was ripped off from the Adventists wholesale. Jesus could have cut out the middle man (Russell) and simply chosen Team A. As it is, Russell simply duplicated the same errors via lots of fantasizing and speculation that led the Adventists to "The Great Disappointment". Jesus could've chosen the originals and gotten a far better (in context) end-result than he got with WT.

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