My email from Ray Franz !

by still_in74 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • still_in74
    still_in74

    about a month ago I sent a thank you letter to Ray for all he has done to help me. I did not expect to get a response but to my surprise he did write me back. Certainly much of it is a copied form letter he uses considering all the email he gets, but there were references to my email and he has even encouraged further correspondance. Nonetheless, I was happy he took the time to consider me.
    So I share this here with you all. THANKS RAY !

    Dear (Still_In74),

    Thank you for your letter and the good thoughts expressed therein.
    As of May 8 I am 86 and in the year 2000 I suffered what was diagnosed as a moderate stroke, no paralysis resulted but it left me tired and with a reduced energy level. So I am not able to keep up with correspondence as I would like. Crisis of Conscience is now in 13 languages, which brings in more mail. My wife’s health has undergone some serious problems as well, requiring the giving of time in that direction. Cynthia underwent a heart catheterization process which revealed six blockages in her heart. The doctors wanted to do bypass surgery but she opted not to do so. On September of 2007 I underwent a surgical operation on my left carotid artery (one of the main arteries supplying blood to the brain). It took an hour and a half and I was conscious during the operation since only a local anesthesia was applied. The surgeon made about a 5-inch incision in the neck and then opened the artery and cleared out the blockage in it. My right carotid artery became totally blocked causing the stroke in the year 2000 and thus it was important to keep the left open and free of blockage. I only had to spend one night in the hospital, for which I was grateful. The popular use of the term "golden years" certainly does not describe what older age really brings. Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 gives a realistic picture.

    Many who write have expressed recognition that bitterness and anger only take away credibility from any discussion of the Witnesses. Unfortunately a large portion of the books and material put out by “ex-JW” sources on the subject are almost entirely negative. A man from England recently wrote:
    I'm currently an "active" Witness from England, and I just wanted to say how absolutely relieved I was to read your books ("Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search Of Christian Freedom"). I must confess, reading them was nothing like I expected. My only contact with ex-jw's has been through browsing the net, and to be honest, a lot of what's written doesn't merit much by way of consideration. A lot of sites are so absolutely blinded by bitterness, that even the truth they do provide is soured and unpalatable.
    I can sympathize with the adjustment you and others face. One invests so much as regards relationships and the seemingly unavoidable loss of many of these is painful. As you evidently recognize, simply withdrawing from a system that one has found to be seriously flawed is not a solution in itself. It is what one does thereafter that determines whether there has been progress and benefit or not. It is also true that any transition—even if only one in outlook—can require not only time but also mental and emotional adjustments. Haste is obviously not advisable as it often only leads to new problems or to new errors. There is always need to exercise patience, trusting in God’s help and direction.—Proverbs 19:2.

    It seems, however, that we can often learn as much from the “unpleasant” experiences of life as we can from the pleasurable ones—perhaps more that is of lasting value. While separation from a large organization and former associates unquestionably produces a degree of loneliness, even that can have its beneficial aspects. It can bring home to us more than ever before the need for full reliance on our heavenly Father, that only in Him have we genuine security and the confidence of his care. It is no longer a case of flowing along with the stream but of developing a personal inner strength, gained through faith, of growing up so as to no longer be children but grown men and women, a growth achieved through our growth in love for God’s Son and the way of life he exemplified. (Ephesians 4:13-16) I don’t view my past experience as all loss, nor feel that I learned nothing from it. I find great comfort in the words of Paul at Romans 8:28 (the New World Translation changes the meaning of this text by inserting the word “his” in the expression “all his works” but this is not the way the original Greek text reads). According to a number of translations, Paul states:
    >
    > We know that by turning everything to their good God cooperates with all those who love him.—Jerusalem Bible translation.
    Not just in “his works” but in “all things” or in “everything” God is able to turn any circumstance—however painful or, in some cases, even tragic—to the good of those who love him. At the time we may well find this difficult to believe but if we turn to him in full faith and allow him to do so, he can and will cause that to be the result. He can make us the better person for having had the experience, enrich us in spite of the sorrow we may undergo. Time will demonstrate this to be so and that hope can give us courage to continue on, trusting in his love.

    You will find that many of what are called “ex-JW ministries, ” have often simply exchanged their previous beliefs for what is known as “orthodoxy.” Orthodoxy undoubtedly contains its measure of what is sound. But it also contains elements that are the result of imposition of religious authority, rather than belief clearly set forth in Scripture. It is difficult, for example, to find any reputable reference work that does not acknowledge the post-Biblical origin of the trinity doctrine. I feel that the main problem with the trinity doctrine is the dogmatism and judgmentalism that customarily accompanies it. That to me is but another evidence of the fragility of its foundation. Were it clearly taught in Scripture, there would be no need for authoritarian imposition of the teaching and heavy pressure to submit to it.

    So many former Witnesses are at a disadvantage when pressured by others to conform to views these have adopted. Dogmatic assertions from sources that claim to base their arguments on knowledge of Biblical Greek often awe former Witnesses—even as they were previously awed by claims of a similar nature from the Watch Tower organization. So many points could be clarified if people were simply to read the same text in a variety of translations. They would then at least see that where translation is concerned, dogmatism is greater evidence of ignorance than of learning. I find this to be the case with many who adopt the Trinity doctrine.

    Paul stressed that knowledge has merit only when it is expressive of, and productive of, love, that while knowledge often puffs up, love builds up. Human language, remarkable though it is, is limited to expressing what relates to the human sphere. It could never adequately be used to describe in detail and fullness things of the spirit realm, such as the exact nature of God, the process whereby He could beget a Son, the relationship resulting from such begettal, and similar matters. At the very least, it would take the language of angels, themselves spirit persons, to do this. Yet Paul says, “If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.”—1 Corinthians 8:1; 13:1-3.

    When I listen to some harp on a particular doctrine which professes to express in specific terms things which the Scriptures state in general terms, to set out explicitly things on which the Scriptures are not explicit, and define what the Scriptures leave undefined, I ask myself how much love this shows, what loving benefit they think results from this, how it could possibly be of comparable benefit to discussing something that is presented straightforwardly and unambiguously in Scripture and the appreciation of which would have real meaning and benefit in the person’s life. I’m afraid much of what many hear carries echoes of the noisy gong and clashing cymbal.

    It reminds me of a statement found in the book The Myth of Certainty, in which university professor Daniel Taylor writes:
    > The primary goal of all institutions and subcultures is self-preservation.
    > Preserving the faith is central to God’s plan for human history; preserving
    > particular religious institutions is not. Do not expect those who run the
    > institutions to be sensitive to the difference. God needs no particular
    > person, church, denomination, creed or organization to accomplish his purpose.
    > He will make use of those, in all their diversity, who are ready to be used,
    > but will leave to themselves those who labor for their own ends.
    >
    > Nonetheless, questioning the institutions is synonymous, for many, with
    > attacking God—something not long to be tolerated. Supposedly they are
    > protecting God . . . Actually, they are protecting themselves, their view of
    > the world, and their sense of security. The religious institution has given
    > them meaning, a sense of purpose, and, in some cases, careers. Anyone
    > perceived as a threat to these things is a threat indeed.
    >
    > This threat is often met, or suppressed even before it arises, with power. . .
    > . Institutions express their power most clearly by enunciating, interpreting
    > and enforcing the rules of the subculture.
    Having seen the truth of this in the Witness religion and its organization and creed, we should not nearsightedly fail to realize how equally true it is in the larger religious field.

    As regards association and fellowship, I recognize the dilemma some face. But I do feel that as time goes on one can find others whose association and companionship can be healthful and upbuilding, whether among former Witnesses or others. In one’s daily course of life one meets a variety of people and over a period of time may find at least some whose association is healthful and upbuilding. We get together with others for Bible discussion and though our group is quite small we find it satisfying. Naturally there is a certain benefit to similarity of background, but it doesn’t seem as if this should be a major goal. I personally have no interest in affiliating with a denomination. Some have expressed that most denominations have more in common than the points on which they disagree, which has some truth in it. Yet they still prefer to remain as separate denominations and affiliation with any of them does have at least some divisive effect, since one is expected to uphold and favor the growth and distinctive teachings of the denomination involved.

    In a recent letter from Canada a brother writes:
    I have started witnessing informally to people who have Bible questions or when I see it is an appropriate time to witness. I offer a free discussion
    on the Bible, its theme concerning Jesus and the Kingdom, the main divisions and how to study it to profit personally. No obligations, no church, no religion, just a Bible discussion. I do not associate with any group and do not feel the need to really. I also do not give personal opinions wherever the
    Scriptures are not clear or are a decision of conscience. However, I do feel
    the need to let folks know that the Bible's way is the only way to live and
    freedom, true freedom, comes through knowing Jesus Christ. On occasion I see myself saying things that must be verified for the correct understanding, but I at least feel I know the basics to help someone profit from a personal
    study of the Bible. It takes a long time to get out of the woods, and I sometimes ask myself if total eradication of WT influence is possible. When it has been a part of your adult life for so long, you still find yourself thinking a
    certain way and then realize it is learned thoughts, not logically thought
    out sometimes. There are some things you want to hold on to of course, but their programming gets in the way more often than you would like to believe.
    I do not know if you have read the sequel to Crisis of Conscience, the book titled In Search of Christian Freedom. You may find many questions considered there.

    I hope that things may go well for you and wish you God’s guidance, comfort and strength as you face up to life's problems. Where do you have your residence?

    Sincerely,

    Ray
  • changeling
    changeling

    That was beautiful, level headed and rational. It seems that at 86, Ray has not lost his "touch". I knew him as a child and he was a good friend of the family. What a terrible thing that my parents have lost this friend because of their crazy beliefs and alligience to a cult.

    changeling :)

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    what a tremendous effort
    what a humble man

    i have to tell you i copied part of his email,
    the quote from Prof Daniel Taylor, and
    used it on a forum for adult survivors
    of childhood sexu@l @buse to respond
    to a member who was asking about
    "finding a church"....

    i specifically warned about groups
    that actively recruit....

  • still_in74
    still_in74
    i copied part of his email,
    the quote from Prof Daniel Taylor

    I thought that was a brilliant quote!

    I am glad this letter helped you or perhaps someone else.

  • Mary
    Mary

    Wow....what a well written, warm and encouraging email. The only part that freaked me out what when Ray said he was awake for his surgery. Yowza!!

  • Amha·’aret
    Amha·’aret

    I wonder if he really knows just how many people he has helped thru his books. Reading "Crisis" was a major turning point for me. What impressed me, similar to what others have said, is how there is no bitterness or resentment coming thru his books. That's one of the things that made the book easy to read. I've just started reading Christian Freedom. Should be a good read!

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