TREES DISCOVERED OLDER THAN ADAM AND EVE

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  • Gopher
    Gopher

    I couldn't find any reference to this item on the Guardian website. However, it did appear on this Australian news site: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23526841-2,00.html?from=public_rss

    Hardy spruce might be oldest living trees

    By Niklas Pollard in Stockholm

    April 12, 2008 01:39am

    SCIENTISTS have found a cluster of spruces in the mountains in western Sweden which, at an age of 8000 years, may be the world's oldest living trees.

    The hardy Norway spruces were found perched high on a mountain side where they have remained safe from recent dangers such as logging, but exposed to the harsh weather conditions of the mountain range that separates Norway and Sweden.

    Carbon dating of the trees carried out at a laboratory in Miami, Florida, showed the oldest of them first set root about 8000 years ago, making it the world's oldest known living tree, Umea University Professor Leif Kullman said.

    California's "Methuselah" tree, a Great Basin bristlecone pine, is often cited as the world's oldest living tree with a recorded age of between 4500 and 5000 years.

    Two other spruces, also found in the course of climate change studies in the Swedish county of Dalarna, were shown to be 4800 and 5500 years old.

    "These were the first woods that grew after the Ice Age," said Lars Hedlund, responsible for environmental surveys in the county of Dalarna and collaborator in climate studies there.

    "That means that when you speak of climate change today, you can in these (trees) see pretty much every single climate change that has occurred."

    Although a single tree trunk can become at most about 600 years old, the spruces had survived by pushing out another trunk as soon as the old one died, Professor Kullman said.

    Rising temperatures in the area in recent years had allowed the spruces to grow rapidly, making them easier to find in the rugged terrain, he added.

    "For quite some time they have endured as bushes maybe 1/2 metre tall," he said.

    ``But over the past few decades we have seen a much warmer climate, which has meant that they have popped up like mushrooms in the soil.''

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    there's an older plant near here in the Palm Springs area - a creosote bush that is about 13,000 years old. Here's one article about the plants: creosote

  • badboy
    badboy

    BTTTTT

  • oneairhead
    oneairhead

    If this was brought up to a Jdub they would jusitfy it by saying that we really don't know how long the creative days lasted.

    One

  • badboy
    badboy

    BUT IN THAT CASE,HOW DID IT SURVIVE THE FLOOD?

  • Alpaca
    Alpaca

    This is very fascinating stuff. Plus, it is just one more nail in the coffin of the Dubs deluded view of history and pre-history.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I am not surprised. I have heard of specimens of trees that are more than 10,000 years old. Some of the brush in deserts is that old (for sure, those creosote bushes and other plants that live for more than 6,000 years would not do well in a flood).

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    has any of you ever gone to see the bristle cone pines? They are also ancient, and beautiful in a very other-worldly way. You drive up to a barren, or nearly barren, mountain top over 10,000 feet, and walk slowly (that's all you can do at that height) around the beautiful trees. It's very quiet, you can hear an insect buzzing from a long way away, and it is crystal clear and closer to heaven than anywhere else I have been.

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