by jesus returning in 1914 by only directing his attention towards earth...(flip flop flip flop) what does his actual presence consist of? is he projecting his spirit from heaven.....
what do they mean by presence now ? [please expand]
WTF with jesus christ .............
by grewupJWnoselfesteem78-95 9 Replies latest jw friends
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buffalosrfree
Presence being there, maybe, but who knows wtf the witnless think about this they don't really know themselves, they may even believe he is present due to working through the goberning bodice, but who knows or for that matter cares???
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grewupJWnoselfesteem78-95
what part of jesus is on earth ?
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grewupJWnoselfesteem78-95
if they say that then how did jesus select and seal the annointed in 1918 ?
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steve2
To be believably present, you need to be invisible. Why? Because, if your return to the earth has been predicted and you don't arrive by the expected date, the best way to forestall a loss of faith in your return is to argue that you are in fact present...but just not visible. This re-visioning might seem to some like a cop-out, but to others it appears admirably clever.
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grewupJWnoselfesteem78-95
if you were visbale in the first place would you have to ague this ?
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Aphrodite
If you're present invisibly, wouldn't you need to show you were here somehow, by doing something? What marked Jesus invisible return? Were did he return to and where from? Is he just twiddling his thumbs now?
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triplestrength
Of course if he was visible then that means the Ransom Sacrifice is null and void, in effect he's taken it back and we're without a hope of salvation.
But why not if he's invisible, after all just because we can't see the wind it's still there having an effect is'nt it? So if he returns then what about our salvation?
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Must obey!
U ask a very good question and the fact there is absolutely no sensible answer just shows how utterly false the Society's teaching on this is. This teaching is a huge insult to one's intelligence, which doesn't say much for 6.6million JW's intelligence.
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blueviceroy
In an alternate school of thought , it is believed that a "Christ frequency" is being transmitted to earth to heal us and promote ascension from our obviously beleaguered state of being.
I am sure we are all capable of being "Christed spirits" but the interpretation made by the society is a perversion of anything resembling logic or reason.
Jesus stands for an Ideal just like Buddha or any other Holy figure .
I myself believe we are changing for the better and it's because PEOPLE are returning to earth in acts of love and understanding and we as a whole have grown tired of the same old garbage that is wrecking our existence.