Are The "Anointed" Or 144,000 Among Jehovah's Witnesses?

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    Are The "Anointed" Or 144,000 Among Jehovah's Witnesses?

    Perhaps you may have remembered reading in the bible upon occasion, or heard someone say: We should sing before God, a "New Song." Ever heard of this before? Well, the expression, "Sing a New Song" before God, is found many times within the Holy Scriptures.

    For example in Psalms 96:1-3 where it states:

    "Sing to Jehovah a new song. Sing to Jehovah, all the earth. Sing to Jehovah, bless his name. From day to day tell the good news of salvation by him. Declare among the nations his glory, Among all the peoples his wonderful works." -- New World Translation

    There can be no question but that the "New Song" that the Psalmist Moses was referring to many years ago, actually had to do with magnifying God's Name to the most distant part of the earth, demonstrating his Grand Acts of Salvation, in behalf all members of mankind upon the earth. Therefore, the publishing or "Singing" of this "New Song" before God, thus would have great meaning to Him, in relation to the carrying out of His Grand Purposes toward the earth and its inhabitants. It would have to become a "Song" that all mankind...all mankind would have to hear and come to fully appreciate its import upon themselves. -- Genesis 22:18

    However, even though we have come to realize this "New Song" of God, with all of its great importance to God, will one day soon, be heard in all of the earth for the benefit of mankind, still there is this most mysterious aspect about this "New Song" and what it might mean for us today, who stand to benefit from such an unveiling of this musical masterpiece from Jehovah God Himself. Yes, what is the true meaning of the coming "New Song" that God is going to bring forth to earth's inhabitants?

    In years past, the Watchtower Society in many of their publications have given us an explanation of what they believed the "New Song" to be and who and when it is to be sung. Notice the following quotes below:

    In the 1966 Watchtower magazine, page 184, under the subheading, THE GRAND THEME OF THE SONG , we learn this:

    “And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the older persons.” So the song was not known and sung before 1914. It is new. The 144,000 integrity-keeping joint heirs with Christ are the first ones to vocalize it. Because of its singers and its content it is the greatest and most far-reaching anthem of the universe, for it is about the kingdom of God as the government that HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 1914."

    Also, the 1973 Watchtower magazine, page 401 paragraph 1 continues:

    "JEHOVAH is being praised in a song that is heard throughout the earth today. No, it is not being sung by Levites. Nor can we hear an angelic chorus extolling God in the heights above. But we can hear the “new song,” sung in unison by prospective heirs of Jehovah’s heavenly government. (Rev. 14:1-4; 20:6; 22:5; Ps. 96:1, 10) It is the stirring anthem of God’s established kingdom that has functioned in heaven SINCE 1914 C.E. WITH THE GLORIFIED JESUS CHRIST AS KING. Thousands have heard that gripping song with deep appreciation."

    Then too, there was this comment from The Revelation Grand Climax book, chapter 29, page 200, paragraph 7, which adds:

    "And what is this “new song”? As we noted in discussing Revelation 5:9, 10, the song has to do with Jehovah’s Kingdom purposes and his wonderful provision, through Jesus Christ, for making spiritual Israel “a kingdom and priests to our God.” It is a song of praise to Jehovah publicizing the new things he is accomplishing by means of the Israel of God and in behalf of it. (Galatians 6:16) Members of this spiritual Israel respond to the psalmist’s invitation: “Praise Jah, you people! Sing to Jehovah a new song, his praise in the congregation of loyal ones. Let Israel rejoice in its grand Maker, the sons of Zion—let them be joyful in their King.” (Psalm 149:1, 2) True, those words were written centuries ago, but in our day, they have been sung with new understanding. IN 1914 THE MESSIANIC KINGDOM WAS BORN. (Revelation 12:10) In 1919 Jehovah’s people on earth began to announce “the word of the kingdom” with renewed zeal. (Matthew 13:19) Stimulated by the Society’s yeartext for 1919 (Isaiah 54:17) and encouraged by their restoration to a spiritual paradise, they began in that year to ‘sing to Jehovah with music in their hearts.’—Ephesians 5:19."

    Therefore according to their understanding, this "New Song" is tied completely to the date of 1914, when, as they teach, Jesus received full kingdom power in the heavens. Now this explanation presents a real problem for those of us who have learned and can prove that this particular date, either 1914 or 1919, has no validity or credibility as it cannot be substantiated using the Bible. Therefore, this being the case, many questions come to mind that need answers.

    (For more detail information on the topic of 1914 as a true biblical doctrine or not, please see the article entitled: When Does Jesus' Heavenly Reign Begin And End?)

    However, is it reasonable to believe this "New Song" from God has been sung or is being sung today currently by Jehovah's witnesses? Indeed, if it can be proven from the bible God's kingdom was not established in 1914 as taught by the Watchtower Society, then can 6.5 million Jehovah's Witnesses make a valid claim to be actually singing this special song, via the "anointed" who are supposed to be ONLY in their midst, some 7,000 or so strong? Indeed, can Jehovah's Witnesses actually teach the remnant of the 144,000 are strictly in their midst, the so-called "anointed" if you will, if the teaching of 1914 is found to be ultimately INCORRECT upon close examination? Yes, can they rightly make this claim at all?

    Remember, the Watchtower Society claims this "New Song" is known only to members of the 144,000, which makes it impossible for anyone to properly sing this "New Song" BEFORE that date or new teaching became known...isn't that so? That's what they teach, isn't it? Therefore, no member of the 144,000 could properly sing this "New Song" itself, until after the teaching of 1914 became known.

    So what this means of course, since Jehovah's witnesses teach God has been gathering the 144,000 approximately over a 2,000 year period, since Jesus' death, that only a small portion (a small remnant) of this group could actually gain the grand opportunity to really "Sing" this "New Song" because those who died before this date could not have even learned about the mysterious date of 1914 per say. Now, what do you think of that?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    Given that understanding of the singing of the "New Song," doesn’t this indicate that the Watchtower Society has actually assumed and adopted the fatal reasoning that not ALL, ALL of the 144,000 actually get to really "Sing" the Brand "New Song" of God? Is that the only logical conclusion that we could come to, given such a faulty reasoning and premise presented by the Watchtower Society?

    Realistically, doesn't this show the Watchtower Society itself, actually does not understand how this "New Song" will be properly presented to all mankind? Also, doesn't this clearly show the Watchtower Society and 6.5 million Jehovah's Witnesses themselves, actually do NOT know the true identify of the 144,000, since Revelation 14:3 makes it crystal-clear all...and that's all, of the 144,000 and NOT a portion of them, actually get to sing the Grand "New Song" before God and the "Lamb"? Isn't that what the bible teaches?

    Yes, in the light of the above information, can the Watchtower Society really say that members from their group, members from the Jehovah's witnesses organization, actually understand what this "New Song" is, who is to sing it and when it is to be sung?

    Think about it.

    Remember, the Watchtower Society claims that there are today some 7,000 plus members of the "anointed" remnant of the 144,000, elite members of this special group mentioned in Revelation 14:1-5 . Keep in mind that verse 5 in part says of the 144,000:

    “...and no falsehood was found in their mouths, they are without blemish.”

    However as so many are beginning to realilze, if the teaching of 1914 can be proven to be a lie or complete falsehood in itself, are we to believe that certain members (the so-called "anointed") of the Jehovah's Witnesses today at large, FIT THE HOLY DESCRIPTION OF ONES WHO "HAVE NO FALSEHOOD IN THEIR MOUTHS"? Can we truthfully say that? Again, can we say someone, who claims to be the "anointed" of God and members of the 144,000, who has taught a blatant falsehood or false doctrine like the teaching of 1914, in association with a religious organization that has taught this for over 125 years, be said to be holy persons who have "no falsehood found in their mouths," just as promised by God Himself of the elite group we call the 144,000? Hardly!

    (Article abbreviated. For complete article see link: http://www.singnewsong.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25#25 )

    bjc

  • bjc2read
    bjc2read

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  • bjc2read
    bjc2read

    Hi Mary,

    If a person is familar with the 1914 teaching and knows this is a false teaching, then finds out there is NO ANOINTED...wow, that crumbles the Watchtower, the whole religion, doesn't it?!?

    Yes, I believe it does.

    But we know that doesn't happen all that often. You see, to most Jehovah's Witnesses the teaching of 1914 cannot be proven wrong, at least in their own minds. The teaching is infallible to them, which means the JW organization will come out right in the end, and the "anointed" will lead them to victory. So rank and file Jehovah's Witnesses mostly will not even entertain any thoughts of failure on their parts or the Watchtower Society's part in connection with the 1914 teaching.

    Of course there are some JWs that are now beginning to give ear to a very different possibility about this teaching, thankfully.

    bjc

  • rnovello
    rnovello

    Love the way the two burney annointed of burney try to get a topic going. lol

    R.

  • rnovello
    rnovello

    tidingsbearer,

    sent you a message. there is a very good blog on the net that exposes burney, madmary , lilltle leslie , and bj, for what and who they really are. evil and dispicable

    R

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