some things to consider

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  • purplesofa

    As our country loses its nerve, some things to ponder. A long read but worth

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    Subject: Some things to consider

    > This article by Raymond Kraft should give each of us pause for
    > enlightenment and concern.
    > This is an EXCELLENT essay . Well thought out and presented.
    > ____________________________________________________
    > Historical Significance
    > Sixty-three years ago, Nazi Germany had overrun almost all of
    > Europe and hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat. The
    > Nazis had sunk more than 400 British ships in their convoys between
    > England and America taking food and war materials.
    > At that time the US was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and
    > most Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war.
    > Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and in outrage
    > Congress unanimously declared war on Japan, and the following
    > day on Germany, who had not yet attacked us. It was a dicey thing. We
    > had few allies.
    > France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly
    > aligned itself with its German occupiers. Germany was certainly not an
    > ally, as Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe.
    > Japan was not an ally, as it was well on its way to owning and
    > controlling all of Asia.
    > Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading
    > Canada and Mexico, as launching pads to get into the United States over
    > our northern and southern borders, after they finished gaining control
    > of Asia and Europe.
    > America's only allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland,
    > Canada, Australia, and Russia. That was about it, all of Europe, from
    > Norway to Italy (except Russia in the East) was already under the Nazi
    > heel.
    > The US was certainly not prepared for war. The US had drastically
    > downgraded most of its military forces after WW I because of the
    > depression, so that at the outbreak of WW II, Army units were training
    > with broomsticks because they didn't have guns, and cars with "tank"
    > painted on the doors because they didn't have real tanks. A huge chunk
    > of our Navy had just been sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.
    > Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donation of
    > $600 million in gold bullion in the Bank of England (that was actually
    > the property of Belgium) given by Belgium to England to carry on the
    > war when Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact).
    > Actually, Belgium surrendered on one day, because it was unable to
    > oppose the German invasion, and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble
    > the next day just to prove they could.
    > Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of
    > staggering losses and the near decimation of its Royal Air Force in the
    > Battle of Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only
    > because Hitler made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively
    > minor threat that could be dealt with later. Hitler first turned his
    > attention to Russia, in the late summer of 1940 at a time when England
    > was on the verge of collapse.
    > Ironically, Russia saved America's butt by putting up a desperate
    > fight for two years, until the US got geared up to begin hammering away
    > at Germany .
    > Russia lost something like 24,000,000 people in the sieges of
    > Stalingrad and Moscow alone . . . 90% of them from cold and starvation,
    > mostly civilians, but also more than a 1,000,000 soldiers.
    > Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would have been able to focus his
    > entire war effort against the Brits, then America. If that had
    > happened, the Nazis could possibly have won the war.
    > All of this has been brought out to illustrate that turning points
    > in history are often dicey things. Now, we find ourselves at another
    > one of those key moments in history.
    > There is a very dangerous minority in Islam that either has, or
    > wants, and may soon have, the ability to deliver small nuclear,
    > biological, or chemical weapons, almost anywhere in the world.
    > The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in
    > Kaffiyahs -- they believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of
    > Wahhabi Islam, should own and control the Middle East first, then
    > Europe, then the world. To them, all who do not bow to their will of
    > thinking should be killed, enslaved, or subjugated. They want to finish
    > the Holocaust, destroy Israel, and purge the world of Jews. This is
    > their mantra (goal).
    > There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East -- for the
    > most part not a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its
    > Inquisition and its Reformation, but it is not yet known which side will
    > win -- the Inquisitors, or the Reformationists.
    > If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will
    > control the Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US, European, and Asian
    > economies.
    > The techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC -- not an
    > OPEC
    > dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an
    > OPEC dominated by the Jihadis. Do you want gas in your car? Do you
    > want heating oil next winter? Do you want the dollar to be worth
    > anything? You had better hope the Jihad, the Muslim Inquisition, loses,
    > and the Islamic Reformation wins.
    > If the Reformation movement wins, that is, the moderate Muslims
    > who believe that Islam can respect and tolerate other religions, live in
    > peace with the rest of the world, and move out of the 10th century into
    > the 21st, then the troubles in the Middle East will eventually fade
    > away. A moderate and prosperous Middle East will emerge.
    > We have to help the Reformation win, and to do that we have to
    > fight the Inquisition, i.e., the Wahhabi movement, the Jihad, Al Qaeda
    > and the Islamic terrorist movements. We have to do it somewhere. We
    > can't do it everywhere at once. We have created a focal point for the
    > battle at a time and place of our choosing . . . . . . . . in Iraq .
    > Not in New York , not in London , or Paris or Berlin , but in Iraq ,
    > where we are doing two important things:.
    > (1) We deposed Saddam Hussein. Whether Saddam Hussein was
    > directly involved in the 9/11 terrorist attack or not, it is undisputed
    > that Saddam has been actively supporting the terrorist movement for
    > decades. Saddam is a terrorist! Saddam is, or was, a weapon of mass
    > destruction, responsible for the deaths of probably more than a
    > 1,000,000 Iraqis and 2,000,000 Iranians .
    > (2) We created a battle, a confrontation, a flash point, with
    > Islamic terrorism in Iraq . We have focused the battle. We are killing
    > bad people, and the ones we get there we won't have to get here. We
    > also have a good shot at creating a democratic, peaceful Iraq, which
    > will be a catalyst for democratic change in the rest of the Middle East,
    > and an outpost for a stabilizing American military presence in the
    > Middle East for as long as it is needed.
    > WW II, the war with the Japanese and German Nazis, really began
    > with a "whimper" in 1928. It did not begin with Pearl Harbor. It
    > began with the Japanese invasion of China. It was a war for fourteen
    > years before the US joined it. It officially ended in 1945 -- a 17 year
    > war -- and was followed by another decade of US occupation in Germany
    > and Japan to get those countries reconstructed and running on their own
    > again; a 27 year war.
    > WW II cost the United States an amount equal to approximately a
    > full year's GDP -- adjusted for inflation, equal to about $12 trillion
    > dollars. WW II cost America more than 400,000 soldiers killed in action,
    > and nearly 100,000 still missing in action.
    > The Iraq war has, so far, cost the United States about
    > $160,000,000,000, which is roughly what the 9/11 terrorist attack cost
    > New York. It has also cost about 3,000 American lives, which is roughly
    > equivalent to lives that the Jihad killed (within the United States) in
    > the 9/11 terrorist attack.
    > The cost of not fighting and winning WW II would have been
    > unimaginably greater -- a world dominated by Japanese Imperialism and
    > German Nazism.
    > This is not a 60- Minutes TV show, or a 2-hour movie in which
    > everything comes out okay. The real world is not like that. It is
    > messy, uncertain, and sometimes bloody and ugly. It always has been,
    > and probably always will be.
    > The bottom line is that we will have to deal with Islamic
    > terrorism until we defeat it, whenever that is. It will not go away if
    > we ignore it.
    > If the US can create a reasonably democratic and stable Iraq,
    > then we have an ally, like England, in the Middle East, a platform,
    > from which we can work to help modernize and moderate the Middle East.
    > The history of the world is the clash between the forces of relative
    > civility and civilization, and the barbarians clamoring at the gates to
    > conquer the world.
    > The Iraq War is merely another battle in this ancient and never
    > ending war. Now, for the first time ever, the barbarians are about to
    > get nuclear weapons; unless some body prevents them from getting them.
    > We have four options:>
    > 1. We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons.
    > 2. We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons
    > (which may be as early as next year, if Iran's progress on nuclear
    > weapons is what Iran claims it is).
    > 3 We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the
    > Middle East now, in Europe in the next few years or decades, and
    > ultimately in America . OR
    > 4. We can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the
    > Jihad is more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has
    > dominated France and Germany and possibly most of the rest of Europe.
    > It will, of course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much
    > bloodier.
    > If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your
    > children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the
    > Mullahs and the Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.
    > The history of the world is the history of civilization clashes,
    > cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society
    > and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
    > Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The
    > pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
    > Remember, perspective is every thing, and America 's schools teach
    > too little history for perspective to be clear, especially in the young
    > American mind.
    > The Cold War lasted from about 1947 at least until the Berlin Wall
    > came down in 1989; forty-two years!
    > Europe spent the first half of the 19th century fighting
    > Napoleon, and from 1870 to 1945 fighting Germany!
    > World War II began in 1928, lasted 17 years, plus a ten year
    > occupation, and the US still has troops in Germany and Japan . World
    > War II resulted in the death of more than 50,000,000 people, maybe more
    > than 100,000,000 people, depending on which estimates you accept.
    > The US has taken more than 3,000 killed in action in Iraq . The
    > US took more than 4 ,000 killed in action on the morning of June 6, 1944,
    > the first day of the Normandy Invasion to rid Europe of Nazi
    > Imperialism.
    > In WW II the US averaged 2,000 KIA a week -- for four years. Most
    > of the individual battles of WW II lost more Americans than the entire
    > Iraq war has done so far.
    > The stakes are at least as high. A world dominated by
    > representative governments with civil rights, human rights, and personal
    > freedoms . . or a world dominated by a radical Islamic Wahhabi movement,
    > by the Jihad, under the Mullahs and the Sharia (Islamic law)
    > It's difficult to understand why the average American does not
    > grasp this. They favor human rights, civil rights, liberty and freedom,
    > but evidently not for Iraqis.
    > "Peace Activists" always seem to demonstrate here in America ,
    > where it's safe.
    > Why don't we see Peace Activist demonstrating in Iran , Syria ,
    > Iraq , Sudan , North Korea , in the places that really need peace
    > activism the most? I'll tell you why! They would be killed!
    > The liberal mentality is supposed to favor human rights, civil
    > rights, democracy, multiculturalism, diversity, etc . , but if the Jihad
    > wins, wherever the Jihad wins, it is the end of civil rights, human
    > rights, democracy, multiculturalism, diversity, etc.
    > Americans who oppose the liberation of Iraq are coming down on the
    > side of their own worst enemy!
    > _______________________________________________________
    > Raymond S. Kraft is a writer living in Northern California that
    > has studied the Middle Eastern culture and religion .
    > Please consider passing along copies of this article to students
    > in high school, college and university as it contains information about
    > the American past that is very meaningful today -- history about America
    > that very likely is completely unknown by them (and their instructors,
    > too). By being denied the facts of our history, they are at a decided
    > disadvantage when it comes to reasoning and thinking through the issues
    > of today. They are prime targets for misinformation campaigns beamed at
    > enlisting them in causes and beliefs that are special interest agenda
    > driven.

  • JK666

    Good points, Purps.

    This doesn't even factor in that most of our industrial output has been shipped to China. What do we have to ramp up for a war effort? Scary!


  • startingover

    Thanks for posting that. Although there is quite a few claims made in that essay that I know nothing about, it sure is something to think about.

  • purplesofa

    I appreciated the history told here. and the comparison to now.

    and the information as I am oblivious to really whats goes on and what has gone on in history.


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