Gun control logic

by Gregor 174 Replies latest social current

  • dawg
    dawg

    Journeyon- "are you too damn stupid" is a question and not a statement.... if you're not too damn stupid it would't apply to you. thanks for answering it in the affirmiative in your case...

    IP-SEC-I wasn't referring to you bro, you're cool by me... we just simply disagree, but you still don't get the point I'm making maybe that's becasue I'm slightly dislexic and have a hard time on this site... Maybe it's my fault. We don't have to agree about gun control to see the logic in the argument. That's my point... it's like everyone sees the argument so black and white and it's really not that simple... arms in the case of the second amendment means weapons; weapons in our forefathers day aren't the same as they are today, so the second amendment can't be viewed as a carte blanche to make all arms legal, where does it stop? That's my question, where in your mind does your ability to own a weapon stop?

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    Dawg,

    Thats the problem. By definition you cannot put nukes into the same lump as guns, or bows and arrow, or slingshot or swords etc.

    Nukes are not a defensive weapon in the personal arena. You cannot use even a tactical nuke for sport. You cannot use a nuke to sustain a livelihood.

    It's not just a difference in their power. A nuke is an arm, yes? No doubt about it, but even if they had existed in 1776 it still would not be covered under the 2nd amend. Nukes are not personal arms. They are city killers.

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  • MsMcDucket
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    Adding on to the previous post, it beats a security guard with a flashlight!

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos
    What is more important, your "right" to bear arms or the rights of 32 kids not to be killed by some nutjob?
    What do you think? I really couldn't give a rat's ass about a few sheep getting killed, the most important thing to me is.....ME! If we could magically make all guns go away in the blink of an eye, and make all the violence turn into fluffy marshmallow, then I'd say let's do it; that would be great. Since we can't, I'd at least like to have a fighting chance if the chips are down. I'm also of the opinion that the only reason anyone really cares is because there were a few blondes mixed in. I have to wonder how many thousands of brown people have to die horribly before flags start flying at half-mast (as I saw today) in the USA

    (Amos of the survived two shoot-outs because he had something to shoot with class)

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    I'm also of the opinion that the only reason anyone really cares is because there were a few blondes mixed in. I have to wonder how many thousands of brown people have to die horribly before flags start flying at half-mast (as I saw today) in the USA

    Minister Amos, what the hell are you talking about? You sound like a racist nut job. I have not noticed anything this ugly in your past posts. Are you having a bad day?

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    Not really dude, but I really had to question the logic of lowering the US flag to half-mast because someone shot up a college. Meanwhile, back in the not-US, this kind of thing happens ten or a hundred times daily and barely raises a blip on the screen. This is why I threw in the "brown people" comment. If a million or two Africans die like what happened (and still happens) in Rwanda the best you could hope for is an "awwwww tooo bad". If US troops kill a few thousand Iraqi civilians or poison the entire country with depleted uranium rounds, it's "collateral damage" or "well they should have stayed away from the fighting"; 33 Blonde girls and flags go to half mast and POTUS makes a personal visit. I guess it's the blatant disregard for everything not contained in CONUS that makes me bitter.

    Call me a person who likes to keep things in Buddhist perspective. Sure it sucked for the folks who were shot, but on a global scale what happened in VA is nothing.

    The good news is that if they weren't "goats" they may have a chance.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    We need to ban swimming pools before we ban guns.

    A household with a swimming pool is 100 times more likely to result in a child death than a household with a gun.

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos
    A household with a swimming pool is 100 times more likely to result in a child death than a household with a gun.

    It's pretty darn easy to store a firearm in a secure, child-proof container. A pool, not so easy.

    On the other hand most people don't realize that 150 MILLION Americans have IQs below 100. That much below-averageness makes for a turbulent ride.

  • SWALKER
    SWALKER

    I've never been in a gunfight so my question is legit. Would it have been possible for several guys to jump on the shooter? Could they have used desks as shields or even thrown them at him? I think we do need more training in what to do if we are in life or death situations and maybe have a few plans worked out in our minds ahead of time.

    Swalker (Watched a lot of westerns)

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