DIY Redemption!

by The Searcher 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    w85 12/1 p. 9 Declared Righteous "for Life"

    A Merciful Credit Arrangement

    "In the Scriptures, sins are likened to debts. (See Matthew 6:12,14; 18:21-35; Luke 11:4.) All men are sinners and are, therefore, heavily in debt before God. "The wages sin pays is death." (Romans 6:23) Since they had been "sold under sin" by their forefather Adam, his descendants could do nothing to relieve themselves of this crushing debt. (Romans 7:14) Death of the debtor alone could wipe it out, "for he who has died has been acquitted from his sin." (Romans 6:7) No good works done during a sinner’s lifetime could buy back what Adam lost, nor even give him a righteous standing before God."

    No need for the Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world - DIY reconciliation, simply by flatlining! Brilliant!

  • DesirousOfChange

    But then you're still dead.

    Isn't that the supposed purpose for Christ? So the sinner need not die personally to "pay" for his inherited sin?


  • _Morpheus
    Hank wants to give you the million dollars but he had to kill someone else first so you could then kiss his rear and qualify for the money, once you leave town. And if you dont kiss his rear adter he killed someone to give you a million dollars, hes going to kick the stuff out of you. Its all really very simple....
  • prologos

    Searcher, are you pointing out a brilliant scheme? -- 1) declare death to be not a natural consequence of living, but an avoidable anomaly, caused by a misdeed (like Prometheus). -- 2) propose a solution, "jesus", benefit, freedom, collectibly only after death, -- 3) collect 10% compound interest on the solution, knowing full well, that there is no payment possible to the departed, those that successfully finished life.

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher


    Each to his own.

    I am simply pointing out that JW's don't have the faintest bit of awareness that they are indoctrinated to believe in two ways to wipe out their sins, as opposed to the Biblical teaching that only Christ can pay the price.

  • prologos

    Sin or not, a key wt teaching is, that in the judgement of the -(end of the world, Mat.25,- soon)- living, salvation, redemption is caused by monetary support, service slavery to the GB, (the only "true blood" Christ's anointed brothers). You can so easily fall short become imperfect, -in need of redemption- of fulfilling your baptism vow to the "spirit directed (governed by B---) " organisation. The diy solution to that, stop it, awaiting proof. Actually, make sure your life is a gift, then, your certain death will be too. Without death ( of stars) there would be no life, no evolution (survival of the fittest). death is one great redeeming feature."

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