120 years

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  • econaut
    econaut

    Peacefulpete maxed out his number of threads so he askd me to post this for him.

    Another interesting thing from the Epistula Apostolorum is the WTS-like prediction of the end arriving by or at a date. A number of posters here have understood the WTS to be yet again giving into temptation to set a date, this time suggesting some prophetic parallel to the 120 years of the Noah story. Below is the passage in the Coptic (translation of a Greek) version then notice the Ethiopic versions modest revision.

    Coptic

    17 We said unto him: Lord, after how many years shall this come to pass ? He said unto us: When the hundredth part and the twentieth part is fulfilled, between the Pentecost and the feast of unleavened bread, then shall the coming of my Father be.

    Ethiopic:

    When an hundred and fifty years are past, in the days of the feast of Passover and Pentecost

    Its generally accepted that when the 120 years came and went an addtional 30 years was added on to the prediction. Sound familiar?

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    I have been doing some reading recently on the Epistula Apostolorum (which has a probable Asia Minor provenance) and its connections with second-century Phyrgian millinarianism and the Montanist prophetic movement at the end of the century. To that one may add Revelation (again, situated in Asia Minor), the Ascension of Isaiah, and the chiliasm of Papias of Hierapolis (which depends in part on 2 Baruch) and Irenaeus, who was influenced by Polycarp and Papias. Some interesting papers in this field including David Frankfurter's "The Legacy of Jewish Apocalypses in Early Christianity: Regional Trajectories" (CRINT, 1996) and Charles Hill's "The Epistula Aposolorum: An Asian Tract from the Time of Polycarp" (JECS, 1999).

    Frankfurter cites Sherman Johnson's paper on "Asia Minor and Early Christianity" (in Neusner's 1972 festscrift for Morton Smith) which notes that Pliny's correspondence with Trajan indicates a "latent hostility" to Roman power in the region which may give rise of popular movements. This hostility is of course very overt in Revelation, which attacks some localized symbols of Rome's power such as the Asian temples to the goddess Roma (= cariacatured as a drunken harlot).

    Hill's article views the Epistula Apostolorum as probably written in the 140s at a time, according to Aelius Aristides:

    when the “many frequent earthquakes” tormented the region, when “Mytilene . . . was nearly all leveled and . . . in many other cities there were many shocks, and some villages were wholly destroyed,” when “the Ephesians and the Smyrnaeans ran to one another in great agitation. The series of earthquakes and terrors was extraordinary.”

    Hill relates the 120 years to this historical setting in the following way:

    We recall here the undated inscriptions mentioned above which speak of famine and pestilence. This date also has the advantage of accommodating a reasonable interpretation of the 120 years of Ep. Apost. 17. Commencing the 120 years from the time of Jesus’ ascension would yield a date of around 150 for the expected parousia. For an author writing not long after a quake in 142–43, this date would be quite plausible, only slightly less so just after the quake(s) of the later 140s (p. 49).
  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    interesting, it might also fit with my pet hypothesis that the mini apocalypse of Mark 13 was enlarged and reinterpreted around that time, (post 135).

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    My own pet hypothesis is that the "mini apocalypse" in Mark 13 derives in part from an earlier non-Christian Jewish apocalypse (dating to the time of Caligula?) that was also utilized in 4 Ezra.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    I would wholeheartedly agree Leolaia. That was something I was hinting at some time before. I also suspect that the "signs" were more theophanic than prophetic. This is part of what I meant by reinterpreted by the author of Mark.

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