suffereing at the hands of Muslims for being a Christian

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  • stillajwexelder

    I think you will find this interesting and maybe even eye-opening.

    Look up Brigitte on Google. An amazing woman who has suffered at the hands of Muslims for being a Christian and knows whereof she speaks. It reads like a story of a Jew who survived the Holocaust. (Are you aware of a trial in

    [Editor's Note: Below are selected excerpts from Brigitte Gabriel's speech delivered at the Intelligence Summit in , Saturday February 18, 2006]. "Because They Hate"
    By Brigitte Gabriel | February 20, 2006

    We gather here today to share information and knowledge. Intelligence is not merely cold hard data about numerical strength or armament or disposition of military forces. The most important element of intelligence has to be understanding the mindset and intention of the enemy. The West has been wallowing in a state of ignorance and denial for thirty years as Muslim extremist perpetrated evil against innocent victims in the name of Allah.

    I was ten years old when my home exploded around me, burying me under the rubble and leaving me to drink my blood to survive,as the perpetrators shouted ?Allah Akbar!? My only crime was that I was a Christian living in a Christian town. At 10 years old, I learned the meaning of the word "infidel."

    I had a crash course in survival. Not in the Girl Scouts, but in a bomb shelter where I lived for seven years in pitch darkness, freezing cold, drinking stale water and eating grass to live. At the age of 13 I dressed in my burial clothes going to bed at night, waiting to be slaughtered. By the age of 20, I had buried most of my friends--killed by Muslims. We were not Americans living in , or Britons in . We were Arab Christians living in .

    As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves "Why do they hate us?" The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if and the West were paying attention to the they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: "infidels."

    Under the banner of Islam "la, ilaha illa allah, muhammad rasoulu allah," (None is god except Allah;
    Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah) they murdered Jewish children in , massacred Christians in , killed Copts in , Assyrians in , Hindus in , and expelled almost 900,000 Jews from Muslim lands. We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.

    Tolerating evil is a crime. Appeasing murderers doesn't buy protection. It earns one disrespect and loathing in the enemy's eyes. Yet apathy is the weapon by which the West is committing suicide. Political correctness forms the shackles around our ankles, by which Islamists are leading us to our demise.

    and the West are doomed to failure in this war unless they stand up and identify the real enemy: Islam. You hear about Wahabbi and Salafi Islam as the only extreme form of Islam. All the other Muslims, supposedly, are wonderful moderates. Closer to the truth are the pictures of the irrational eruption of violence in reaction to the cartoons of Mohammed printed by a Danish newspaper. From burning embassies, to calls to butcher those who mock Islam, to warnings that the West be prepared for another holocaust, those pictures have given us a glimpse into the real face of the enemy. News pictures and video of these events represent a canvas of hate decorated by different nationalities who share one common
    ideology of hate, bigotry and intolerance derived from one source: authentic Islam. An Islam that is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared "Intifada" on the West.

    and the West can no longer afford to lay in their lazy state of overweight ignorance. The consequences of this mental disease are starting to attack the body, and if they don't take the necessary steps now to control it, death will be knocking soon. If you want to understand the nature of the enemy we face, visualize a tapestry of snakes. They slither and they hiss, and they would eat each other alive, but they will unite in a hideous mass to achieve their common goal of imposing Islam on the world.

    This is the ugly face of the enemy we are fighting. We are fighting a powerful ideology that is capable of altering basic human instincts. An ideology that can turn a mother into a launching pad of death. A perfect example is a recently elected Hamas official in the who raves in heavenly joy about sending her three sons to death and offering the ones who are still alive for the cause. It is an ideology
    that is capable of offering highly educated individuals such as doctors and lawyers far more joy in attaining death than any respect and stature, life in society is ever capable of giving them.

    The has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on and its people. The radical Islamists? deeds have been as vile as their words. Since the hostage crisis, more than three thousand Americans have died in a terror campaign almost unprecedented in its calculated cruelty along with thousands of other citizens worldwide. Even the Nazis did not turn their own children into human bombs, and then rejoice at their deaths as well the deaths of their victims. This intentional,indiscriminate and wholesale murder of innocent American citizens is justified and glorified in the name of Islam.

    cannot effectively defend itself in this war unless and until the American people understand the nature of the enemy that we face. Even after 9/11 there are those who say that we must ?engage? our terrorist enemies, that we must address their grievances?. Their grievance is our freedom of religion.
    Their grievance is our freedom of speech. Their grievance is our democratic process where the rule of law comes from the voices of many not that of just one prophet. It is the respect we instill in our children towards all religions. It is the equality we grant each other as human beings sharing a planet and striving to make the world a better place for all humanity. Their grievance is the kindness and respect a man shows a woman, the justice we practice as equals under the law, and the mercy we grant our enemy. Their grievance cannot be answered by an apology for who or what we are.

    Our mediocre attitude of not confronting Islamic forces of bigotry and hatred wherever they raised their ugly head in the last 30 years, has empowered and strengthened our enemy to launch a full scale attack on the very freedoms we cherish in their effort to impose their values and way of life on our civilization.

    If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, 's learning curve since the hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it
    will be to stand erect.

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  • Abaddon

    stilljw, what you ignore in your eagerness to attack Islam is (I assume you know);

    • Most Muslims do NOT regard Jews or Christian as Infidels; they are people of the Book, and not subject to the undeniably harsh way of treating most unbelivers that Islam shares with Christianity.
    • That political inference by Christian powers in the government of Islamic countries has resulted in the overthrow of democartic governments, the impostion of a tyranical puppet, and the subsequent Ismlamic Revolution that would have never happened under the democratic goverment the Christian Powers deposed (Iran). The rise of a tyrant (Iraq). The continuation of chaos in Palestine.
    • People are beastly to each other all the time for no good reason. They are also really nice to each other all the time for no good reason. Most of the time they are the same religion. What point are you trying to make? It's not like Christian governments can claim they haven't done great harm in the Middle East, or that innocent Muslims have not suffered due to the policies of Christian goverments. No one is denying Muslims can be 'unpleasent to Christians' - and no one should deny the reverse is true.

    You were a cultist and are still a jw; I realise the two aren't the same. Don't become a bigot, you're probably far too nice a guy to do that to yourself. If you finger point another faith without looking at your own or others, that is the risk you run. Mote, beam, speck, rafter; not you personally, but Christianity.

  • stillajwexelder

    hey abbaddon

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  • greendawn

    THe Muslims were on the basis of their religion very intolerant towards their Christian subjects that they happened to rule in the past, in the empires of the Arabs, Ottoman, and Persians. Christians were certainly second class citizens under very biased oppressive laws.

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Interesting lady with a traumatic story.

    I notice that the countries have been omitted from your posting. She is from Lebanon (2.5 miles from the Israeli border) and also appears to have very strong Zionist views - not that this condones any of the violence - but it will definitely colour her view of Muslims don't you think?

    Under the banner of Islam "la, ilaha illa allah, muhammad rasoulu allah," (None is god except Allah; Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah) they murdered Jewish children in Israel, massacred Christians in Lebanon, killed Copts in Egypt, Assyrians in Syria, Hindus in India, and expelled almost 900,000 Jews from Muslim lands. We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.

    I've posted this list as anyone reading your post without checking may be in danger of thinking that all these atrocities occured in Middle Eastern countries.

    My comments on the countries above that I know of:

    Israel was as instrumental in the Lebanese situation as the Muslims were.

    Plenty of Muslim children (and Christians) have been killed in Palestine by Israeli forces.

    There are militant Hindus in India who are attacking anyone who isn't Hindu.

    Sabra arab Muslims have been driven from their land in Israel and Palestine with no compensation to make way for Jewish immigrants.

  • Abaddon


    Hey back!

    (Abaddon of the I'm glad some people get 'bar-room banter' the way it should be got class)


    It might not fit your desired viewpoint, but in the Medieval period Jews and Christians living under Islamic rule had greater freedom, more rights, and were subjected to less persecution than Jews or Muslims living under Christian rule. This is historical fact that you should be able to confirm within

    Come on, I'm sure you're a nice guy too; who make yourself look bigoted when you really are probably not? If you fail to inform yourself about such facts, and thus present a one-sided argument (that is invalid due to it being one-sided), that is unfortunately the impression you're likely to give.

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