A deep analysis of Alien beings as the LORD of the Bible.

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    Matthew 24:



















    OLD Testament; Isaiah 45:

    5 I AM the "I AM WHO I AM" (= YAHWEH or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE"), and [there is] none else, [there is] no Gods (= ELoHIM is plural) beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I AM the "I AM WHO I AM", and [there is] none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the "I AM WHO I AM" do all these things.

    NEW Testament; John 8:

    43 Why do ye (= Jews) not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning (= Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning..."), and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (That devil is one of the "I AM WHO I AM" (or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") Gods in the Old Testament!) 45 And because I tell [you] the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. 52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

    NEW Testament; Galatians 5:

    1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. (= Deuteronomy and the Old Testament!) 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

    NEW Testament; Genesis 3:

    22 And the LORD God (= "I AM WHO I AM" Gods) said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing go(o)d and (d)evil . He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

    NEW Testament; Revelation 13:

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

    OLD Testament; Deuteronomy 6:

    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. 10 And it shall be, when the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not, 11 And houses full of all good [things], which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full; 12 [Then] beware lest thou forget the "I AM WHO I AM", which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 13 Thou shalt fear the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name. 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which [are] round about you; 15 (For the "I AM WHO I AM" (or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") thy Gods [is] a jealous Gods among you) lest the anger of the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

    OLD Testament; Deuteronomy 11:

    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    *****[ I don´t like the "I AM WHO I AM" (or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") Gods in the Old Testament anyway! (He is, or) They are capitalism-fascists and Masters of the slaves. ]*****

    OLD Testament; Deuteronomy 6:

    4 Hear, O Israel: The "I AM WHO I AM" (or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") our Gods [is] one (= united) "I AM WHO I AM" : 5 And thou shalt love the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

    NEW Testament; Mark 12:

    28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our GodS is one Lord (= Literal translation from Greek. "Theos" is plural).

    NEW Testament; 2Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    OLD Testament; Psalms 72:

    1 [A Psalm] for Solomon. (= Son of David)
    11 Yea, all kings shall fall down before him (= Solomon): all nations shall serve him.

    OLD Testament; 1Kings 8:

    12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness. 13 I have surely built thee an house to dwell in, a settled place for thee to abide in for ever.

    OLD Testament; 1Kings 11:

    1 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, [and] Hittites; 2 Of the nations [concerning] which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: [for] surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. 3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as [did] David his father. 7 Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. 8 And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods. 9 And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10 And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which the LORD commanded.

    OLD Testament; 1Kings 10:

    23 So king Solomon exceeded all the kings of the earth for riches and for wisdom. 24 And all the earth sought to Solomon, to hear his wisdom, which God had put in his heart. 25 And they brought every man his present, vessels of silver, and vessels of gold, and garments, and armour, and spices, horses, and mules, a rate year by year.

    NEW Testament; John 3:

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    NEW Testament; Acts 4:

    31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

    OLD Testament; Genesis 24:

    34 And he said, I [am] Abraham's servant (= slave!). 35 And the LORD (= "I AM WHO I AM" Gods) hath blessed my master greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants (= slaves!), and camels, and asses.


    OLD Testament; Psalms 110:

    1 A Psalm of David.
    The LORD said unto my LORD, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    NEW Testament; Matthew 22:

    42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44 The LORD said unto my LORD, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any [man] from that day forth ask him any more [questions].

    NEW Testament; Mark 12:

    35 And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my LORD, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 37 David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he [then] his son? And the common people heard him gladly. 38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and [love] salutations in the marketplaces, 39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts: 40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

    NEW Testament; Luke 20:

    41 And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? 42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my LORD, Sit thou on my right hand, 43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? 45 Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples, 46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; 47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

    OLD Testament; Exodus 33:

    11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

    ... 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21 And the LORD said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

    OLD Testament; Genesis 32:

    28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but IsRaEL: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked [him], and said, Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore [is] it [that] thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

    NEW Testament; Matthew 6:

    24 No one can serve two masters (= Lords). Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

    NEW Testament; John 1:

    17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18
    No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,
    who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

    NEW Testament; Galatians 3:

    10 For as many as are of the works of the law (= Deuteronomy) are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    OLD Testament; Deuteronomy 21:

    22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: (= The cross of Christ!) 23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged [is] accursed of Gods;) that thy land be not defiled, which the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods giveth thee [for] an inheritance.

    23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood [is] the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh. 24 Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water. 25 Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do [that which is] right in the sight of the "I AM WHO I AM". 26 Only thy holy things which thou hast, and thy vows, thou shalt take, and go unto the place which the "I AM WHO I AM" shall choose: 27 And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the "I AM WHO I AM" thy Gods, and thou shalt eat the flesh.

    NEW Testament; Luke 22:

    19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

    "... and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six."

    In the GREEK BIBLICAL CODE we can replace the letters by ciphers and than add up the ciphers to give a word a numerical value.
    Some examples:
    JESUS (Ihsouv) = 888 (111 x 8)
    CHRIST (Xriston) = 1332 (111 x 12)
    JESUS CHRIST = 2220 (111 x 20)
    THE CHILD JESUS = 1332 (111 x 12)
    THE MAN CHILD (Rev 12:5: uion arsen") = 888 (111 x 8)
    LORD = 999 (You can upside-down this one literally: 666 ;-)
    SATAN = 360 (180 x 2; Degrees in a (crop-)circle, days in a Hebrew year)
    SERPENT = 360 (180 x 2)

    There is also a Hebrew biblical code:
    YAHWEH ("I AM WHO I AM") = 72
    You need two YAHWEH's to get the holy number of 144
    1332 (666 x 2) - 1260 (SOLOmon; see Revelation,= 42 months,= 3½ years) = 72

    If we divide Christ (= 1332) by two (Gods) we end up with 666! But Solomon was also a christ and if we divide his Gods (Elohim) we really get 666! Solomon really did divided the Elohim, just like he planned to do with the man child or baby (1Kings 3:16-28).

    The word Satan actually means accuser. Only one time in the New Testament does it refers to Satan as being the accuser. The passage is found in the book of Revelation. "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of the brethren of us is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night" (Rev 12:10).

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    NEW Testament; Luke 24:

    44 He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." 45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high."

    OLD Testament; Deuteronomy 4 (the Law of Moses):

    39 Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD is God (= "I AM WHO I AM" or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE" is Gods) in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other. 40 Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the LORD your God gives you for all time.

    Deuteronomy 5 (the Law of Moses):

    2 The LORD our God (= "I AM WHO I AM" our Gods) made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our fathers that the LORD made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today. 4
    The LORD spoke to you face to face
    out of the fire on the mountain

    NEW Testament; John 1:

    17 For the law was given through Moses;
    grace and truth
    came through Jesus Christ. 18
    No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,
    who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

    1 Samuel 16:

    14 Now the Spirit of the LORD (= "I AM WHO I AM" or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD (= "I AM WHO I AM" or: "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") tormented him.

    Matthew 4:

    1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit (= not the Holy Spirit) into the desert to be tempted by the devil.... 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me (= $atan had the power to do this!)." 10 Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

    1 Corinthians 12:

    7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom,... 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits,... 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

    OLD Testament; Ecclesiastes 12 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    10 The Teacher (= Solomon) searched to find just the right words, and what he wrote was upright and true. 11 The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like firmly embedded nails (= The crucifixion of Christ)--given by one Shepherd (= $atan or one of the two LORDS).

    Proverbs 8 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    14 Counsel and sound judgment are mine (= Solomon's wisdom); I have understanding and power. 15 By me kings reign and rulers make laws that are just; 16 by me princes govern, and all nobles who rule on earth (= Freemasons?). 17 I love those who love me, and those who seek me find me. 18 With me are riches and honor, enduring wealth and prosperity. 19 My fruit is better than fine gold; what I yield surpasses choice silver. 20 I walk in the way of righteousness, along the paths of justice, 21 bestowing wealth on those who love me and making their treasuries full. 22 "The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; 23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. 24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, 26 before he made the earth or its fields or any of the dust of the world. 27 I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, 28 when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, 29 when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth. 30 Then I was the craftsman at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence, 31 rejoicing in his whole world and delighting in mankind.

    Proverbs 13 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    12 Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.

    Proverbs 16 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    26 The laborer's appetite works for him; his hunger drives him on.

    Proverbs 18 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    23 A poor man pleads for mercy, but a rich man answers harshly. 24 A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother (= Jesus).

    Proverbs 19 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    5 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free. 6 Many curry favor with a ruler, and everyone is the friend of a man who gives gifts. 7 A poor man is shunned by all his relatives-- how much more do his friends avoid him! Though he pursues them with pleading, they are nowhere to be found. 8 He who gets wisdom loves his own soul; he who cherishes understanding prospers. 9 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will perish. 10 It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury-- how much worse for a slave to rule over princes!

    Proverbs 20 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    24 A man's steps are directed by the LORD. How then can anyone understand his own way? 25 It is a trap for a man to dedicate something rashly and only later to consider his vows.
    (= Deuteronomy 11: 18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.)

    1 Kings 10:

    14 The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents (= about 25 tons), 15 not including the revenues from merchants and traders and from all the Arabian kings and the governors of the land.

    2 Chronicles 9:

    13 The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents, 14 not including the revenues brought in by merchants and traders.
    THE BEAST 666

    OLD Testament; Daniel 7:

    2 Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. 3 Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea. 4 "The first was like a lion (= (d)evil), and it had the wings of an eagle (= two wings or LORDS united as one). I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it.
    (= Daniel 9:27: ...and on a wing of horror, shall come destruction, even until the end, decided to pour-out upon the desolate...)

    Micah 5:

    8 The remnant of Jacob will be among the nations, in the midst of many peoples, like a lion among the beasts of the forest, like a young lion among flocks of sheep, which mauls and mangles as it goes, and no one can rescue. 9 Your hand will be lifted up in triumph over your enemies, and all your foes will be destroyed. 10 "In that day," declares the LORD, "I will destroy your horses from among you and demolish your chariots. 11 I will destroy the cities of your land and tear down all your strongholds. 12 I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells. 13 I will destroy your carved images and your sacred stones from among you; you will no longer bow down to the work of your hands. 14 I will uproot from among you your Asherah poles and demolish your cities. 15 I will take vengeance in anger and wrath upon the nations that have not obeyed me."

    Genesis 49:

    9 You are a lion's cub, O Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness--who dares to rouse him? 10The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he comes to whom it belongs (= Solomon) and the obedience of the nations is his.

    Psalms 91:

    13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

    1 Kings 10:

    18 Then the king (= SOLOmON) made a great throne inlaid with ivory and overlaid with fine gold. 19 The throne had six steps, and its back had a rounded top. On both sides of the seat were armrests, with a lion standing beside each of them. 20 Twelve lions stood on the six steps, one at either end of each step. Nothing like it had ever been made for any other kingdom. 21 All King Solomon's goblets were gold, and all the household articles in the Palace of the Forest of Lebanon were pure gold.

    Psalms 10:

    9 He lies in wait like a lion in cover; he lies in wait to catch the helpless; he catches the helpless and drags them off in his net.

    Proverbs 19 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    12 A king's rage (= King Solomon) is like the roar of a lion, but his favor is like dew on the grass.

    Proverbs 20 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    2 A king's wrath is like the roar of a lion; he who angers him forfeits his life.

    Proverbs 28 (= Solomon's wisdom):

    15 Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked man ruling over a helpless people.

    Jeremiah 4:

    5 "Announce in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem and say: `Sound the trumpet throughout the land!' Cry aloud and say: `Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities!' 6 Raise the signal to go to Zion! Flee for safety without delay! For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction." 7 A lion has come out of his lair; a destroyer of nations has set out. He has left his place to lay waste your land. Your towns will lie in ruins without inhabitant.

    Ezekiel 1:

    4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north--an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal (= UFO or spaceship?),

    5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved. 10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion (= (d)evil), and on the left the face of an ox (= g(o)od); each also had the face of an eagle (= g(o)od AND (d)evil). 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings (= two Lords united as one), one touching the wing (= Daniel 9:27: ...and on a wing of horror, shall come destruction, even until the end, decided to pour-out upon the desolate...) of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went.

    Ezekiel 19:

    1 "Take up a lament concerning the princes of Israel 2 and say: "What a lioness was your mother among the lions! She lay down among the young lions and reared her cubs. 3 She brought up one of her cubs, and he became a strong lion. He learned to tear the prey and he devoured men. 4 The nations heard about him, and he was trapped in their pit. They led him with hooks to the land of Egypt. 5 "When she saw her hope unfulfilled, her expectation gone, she took another of her cubs and made him a strong lion. 6 He prowled among the lions, for he was now a strong lion. He learned to tear the prey and he devoured men. 7 He broke down their strongholds and devastated their towns. The land and all who were in it were terrified by his roaring. 8 Then the nations came against him, those from regions round about. They spread their net for him, and he was trapped in their pit. 9 With hooks they pulled him into a cage and brought him to the king of Babylon. They put him in prison, so his roar was heard no longer on the mountains of Israel.

    Hosea 11:

    For I am God(s), and not man-- the Holy One among you. I will not come in wrath. 10 They will follow the LORD; he will roar like a lion. When he roars, his children will come trembling from the west.

    Hosea 13:

    5 I cared for you in the desert, in the land of burning heat. 6 When I fed them, they were satisfied; when they were satisfied, they became proud; then they forgot me. 7 So I will come upon them like a lion, like a leopard I will lurk by the path. 8 Like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will attack them and rip them open. Like a lion I will devour them; a wild animal will tear them apart. 9 "You are destroyed, O Israel, because you are against me, against your helper. 10 Where is your king, that he may save you? Where are your rulers in all your towns, of whom you said, `Give me a king and princes'? 11 So in my anger I gave you a king, and in my wrath I took him away.

    Jeremiah 25

    30 "Now prophesy all these words against them and say to them: "The LORD will roar from on high; he will thunder from his holy dwelling and roar mightily against his land. He will shout like those who tread the grapes, shout against all who live on the earth. 31 The tumult will resound to the ends of the earth, for the LORD will bring charges against the nations; he will bring judgment on all mankind and put the wicked to the sword," declares the LORD.

    Amos 1:

    2 He said: "The LORD roars from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem; the pastures of the shepherds dry up, and the top of Carmel withers."

    Amos 3:

    7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. 8 The lion has roared-- who will not fear? The Sovereign LORD has spoken-- who can but prophesy?

    Isaiah 31:

    4 This is what the LORD (= "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE") says to me: "As a lion growls, a great lion over his prey-- and though a whole band of shepherds is called together against him, he is not frightened by their shouts or disturbed by their clamor-- so the LORD Almighty (= the WAR-LORD) will come down to do battle on Mount Zion and on its heights. 5 Like birds (= spaceships) hovering overhead, the LORD Almighty (= the WAR-LORD) will shield Jerusalem; he will shield it and deliver it, he will `pass over' it and will rescue it."

    Isaiah 14:

    3 On the day the LORD gives you relief from suffering and turmoil and cruel bondage, 4 you will take up this taunt (= caricature, mockery, scoff, sneer) against the king of Babylon:
    ...12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." 15 But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.

    (= A name used of Satan--"Lucifer," or "morning star,"--comes from this verse. The word Lucifer refers to Venus ( ...and Jesus? That sets on thinking!), one of the brightest objects in the sky. In context, Isaiah was describing the cruelly oppressive king of Babylon, who swelled with pride but would be brought down to defeat. However, Isaiah may be hinting at a force behind the human king: Satan himself. Isaiah's metaphor of the faded morning star aptly describes the eclipse of the haughty king of Babylon--and of Satan (= the (d)evil LORD himself) on earth.)

    2 Timothy 4:

    17 But the Lord stood at my side and gave me strength, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. And I was delivered from the lion's mouth. 18 The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

    1 Peter 5:

    8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings. 10 And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast. 11 To him be the power for ever and ever. Amen.

    Revelation 4:

    In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion (= (d)evil), the second was like an ox (= g(o)od), the third had a face like a man (= Jesus (good) or Solomon (evil)), the fourth was like a flying eagle (= g(o)od AND (d)evil). 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings (= 4x6=24) and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying:
    "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."

    Revelation 5:

    5 Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion (= Solomon and (d)evil) of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals." 6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He came and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne. 8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb

    Revelation 12:

    7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven (Beware: the story continues!). 9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ..... 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens (= the universe) and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.

    Revelation 13:

    1 And the drag-on (= devil) stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. 4 Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?" 5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months (= 1260 days = 3½ years). 6 He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast (= $atan or one of the two LORDS) --all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. 9 He who has an ear, let him hear.

    Revelation 20:

    7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison (= the universe) and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle (= Star Wars). In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them . And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur (= the universe), where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever (= Cold War in the universe?).

    OLD Testament; Joel 2:

    1 Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the LORD (= the (d)evil) is coming. It is close at hand-- 2 a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness. Like dawn spreading across the mountains a large and mighty army comes, such as never was of old nor ever will be in ages to come. 3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes. Before them the land is like the garden of Eden, behind them, a desert waste-- nothing escapes them. 4 They have the appearance of horses; they gallop along like cavalry. 5 With a noise like that of chariots they leap over the mountaintops, like a crackling fire consuming stubble, like a mighty army drawn up for battle. 6 At the sight of them, nations are in anguish; every face turns pale. 7 They charge like warriors; they scale walls like soldiers. They all march in line, not swerving from their course. 8 They do not jostle each other; each marches straight ahead. They plunge through defenses without breaking ranks. 9 They rush upon the city; they run along the wall. They climb into the houses; like thieves they enter through the windows. 10 Before them the earth shakes, the sky trembles, the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars no longer shine. 11 The LORD (= the (d)evil) thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty are those who obey his command. The day of the LORD (= the (d)evil) is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?

    Joel 3:

    5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem to the Greeks, that you might send them far from their homeland. 7 "See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away." The LORD has spoken. 9 Proclaim this among the nations: Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men draw near and attack. 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" 11 Come quickly, all you nations from every side, and assemble there. Bring down your warriors, O LORD! (= the (d)evil) 12 "Let the nations be roused; let them advance into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, for there I will sit ...

  • gumby
    Matthew 24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    If the elect are that damn stupid to put their faith in some asswipe from outer space.... then they ain't very "elect" are they? Jesus said NOBODY is able to snatch out of his hand those that belong to him......such as "the elect", yet you think some E.T. lookin guy can do just that eh? Why do you quote Jesus words yet defy him too?

    Take your alien ass outta here and quit cluttering up the board with your assnine bullshit.


  • Clam

    Numbers 15 v 26

    " The whole Israelite community and the aliens living among them will be forgiven, because all the people were involved in the unintentional wrong."

  • proplog2

    The only way to redeem the Bible as having any value is to look at it as a vault of special instructions for humans.

    If the universe is run by some kind of Cosmic Federation it would make sense that there would be some laws on non-intervention or minimum intervention. If you have a desireable planet it may be sensible to seed it with intelligent creatures and then keep a watch on it to tweak progress.

    Culture forming requires certain ideas to be introduced long in advance to have the desired effect. A religious book that could be copied over and over would be a good medium over the long periods of species development. The whole book doesn't have to be true. Kind of like junk DNA that gets copied over and over. But critical active areas of the book WOULD be true such as certain prophecies linked with the survival of the species.

    It may very well be that angels are really material beings with an advanced technology. Imagine going to a planet a 1000 years behind ours. You could make a pretty good "GOD" impersonation with a few common items we take for granted.

  • Andy C
  • poppers

    Franz, just out of curiosity - how long did it take to compose your post?

  • Franz

    Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. Deuteronomy 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. Deuteronomy 2:20-21 That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead: Deuteronomy 3:11-13 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? Nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man. And this land, which we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which is by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites. And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants. Deuteronomy 9:2 A people great and tall, the children of the Anakims, whom thou knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say, Who can stand before the children of Anak! Joshua 12:4 And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei, Joshua 13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out. Joshua 15:8 And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward: Joshua 17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee. Joshua 18:16-17 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel, And was drawn from the north, and went forth to Enshemesh, and went forth toward Geliloth, which is over against the going up of Adummim, and descended to the stone of Bohan the son of Reuben, 2 Samual 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. 1 Chronicles 20:6 And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant

  • undercover

    Dude....take your meds...please...

  • truth_about_the_truth

    What is your point? What are you trying to promote?

    Look at Genesis 6:4. They are your beloved aliens right there. You can take them as your LORD if you want, but hey it's your life. Just stop trying to drag others down the toilet with you.

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