The power of mind programing/conditioning

by darth frosty 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    I was reading some blogs and came accross this info:

    How To Deprogram Your Own Mind

    Link1Want to know the truth. This is essential. This is the whole ball game. If you don't want to learn the truth, then you probably won't.
    Love the truth, even if it is sometimes inconvenient or unpleasant. Respect the truth, cherish the truth, seek the truth above all.

    People stay trapped in cults, or trapped in illusions, because they don't really want to know the truth:

    3. Sometimes, they are afraid to know the truth --

    They fear that their world will fall apart if they stop believing certain things, or admit the truth of other things. That is one of the beliefs with which they got programmed - the idea that if they don't believe the right things, they will go to Hell, or they will lose their ticket to Heaven, or something else really bad will happen to them. One of the things that cults do is implant phobias about leaving the cult, or learning the truth about the cult.
    They are afraid of losing their status or membership in the group - they are afraid that they will be shunned and ostracized if they don't believe the same things as the other people around them. And they are just plain afraid of being alone.

    They fear that they will have to leave the cult if they stop believing in it, and they will stop believing in it if they learn a bunch of negative things about it. ("Then what will I do with my life?!") So they plug their ears and close their eyes, and play "Hear no evil, see no evil..."
    Some people just don't want to see that they were fooled.

    "I refuse to believe that I spent twelve years of my life in a cult. It isn't a cult. It can't be a cult. It's a wonderful movement."
    As they say in A.A., "Denial isn't just a river in Egypt."

    Some people just don't want to give it up.
    "If I leave the group, I will be lonely because I won't have any friends. So shut up and quit telling me disturbing things about it."
    "I have lots of time invested here. I'm a respected elder. If I quit the organization, I'll be a nobody."

    Link2And then some other old-timers say things like, "I refuse to believe that I wasted 12 years of my life on a cult."

    Carl Sagan, in his book The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, told the story of how the TV program 60 Minutes in Australia performed a funny candid-camera kind of experiment where they manufactured a phony guru and then foisted him on the public for a few weeks, to see how gullible the public was. The experiment was a great success (if you look at it that way) because nobody, not even the press or other TV news organizations, even bothered to check out the charlatan's false credentials and fake credits. Everybody just swallowed it all, hook, line, and sinker. And the most outrageous part was the fact that, after 60 Minutes and even the phony guru himself explained to the public that it had all been a hoax, just a test of gullibility, some people still said to the phony guru, "We don't care what they say about you. We still believe in you." Some people will do just about anything to avoid admitting that they have been fooled - even continue to be fooled. It seems like, once you get those people committed to the hoax, you've really got them.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Memorable quotes from "A Few Good Men":

    Kaffee: I want the truth!
    Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth!

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Classic OODAD

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    For me, it was fairly easy to accept another paradigm. Jehovah mistreated me, so I had no problem in revoking my dedication to him even to the point of looking at Devil worship.

    However, many people are afraid to look at another paradigm. They are taught that even to question the validity of the basic beliefs will get them damnation. This is particularly true with cults. So they don't even dare to look at something else. Muslims don't even dare look at Christ, while Christians won't tough Islam with a 10 meter pole. Neither group dares to look at Devil worship. They are scared into thinking demons will attack them, that Devil worship is about sacrificing live animals and children, drinking blood, terrorizing innocent people, and death. That is NOT Devil worship, but EVIL worship. Of course, they are also afraid that even thinking of worshiping Satan will get them into hell.

    Of course, that doesn't mean we need to kiss their butts. Nor should we respect their beliefs--doing that will only pull us right back into the cancer. Rather, I prefer looking at the individuals as being hostage to religious terrorists. Some of those people actually disown their feelings and are always "fake happy". It is usually extremely difficult to get through to someone who has reached the "fake happy" stage because the religion has them deluded to the point where looking elsewhere is almost impossible.

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Good point WTWizard.

    Reminds me of a KRS one song about 2012 where the opening lines are :

    If you don't like what you singing, you sing a different hook
    If you don't like what you cooking, you get a different cook
    If you don't like what you wearing, you get a different look
    You wanna escape Armageddon, read a different book

    link

  • flipper
    flipper

    DARTH- Great thread . Priceless information. As Hassan so often says in his books - cult members are so controlled through fear and guilt that they can't even IMAGINE exiting the cult because of fearing the worst will happen to them. In actuality though if they'd move beyond their fears - a beautiful , free thinking world opens up to them which would bring positive vibes to their lives. But they are so conditioned to fear life outside the cult - it doesn't register across the neurotransmitters in their brain. Due to the cult mind conditioning.

    I often reply to newer members threads on the board here when they post something like, " What do I do now that I'm out of the Witnesses ? My life is all over ! I have nothing to hope for or live for anymore ! " I try to tell them that it's just the BEGINNING of their life, a life with freedom of mind. At first newly exiting JW's cannot SEE that - as they've been SO conditioned to think it's the end if they leave the Witnesses. So- in my opinion, that's where folks like you Darth , me, and others here on the board come into play- we can show these folks they have POSITIVE alternatives to the crap that's been shoveled scoop by scoop into their minds

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