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Lord, to whom shall we go?
by Lee Elder inonce someone figures out that the watchtower is not a safe place for their family, they come face to face with the question of where they should be.
i don't have the answer for that, but can speak to my personal experience over the past 20 years.. i ended up taking a 12 year break from organized religion, and then read an article about a new group that had formed locally called aldea spiritual community.
after a few visits, i realized that i had found a home among others who were fed up with organized religion.
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Is there a surge in "Upwakers"?
by Phizzy inthe stupid word in the topic title is a piss-take on the bloody silly jw word "needgreaters" that i have seen them use.. but my question is genuine, i know it is a cyclical thing, we get what seems to be a lot of newbies, and then things quieten down, but not just on here, elsewhere on social media i am seeing stories of people finding the courage to leave, having woken up for a variety of reasons, but usually the child abuse scandal, and the spiteful, judgmental nature of many jw's, who, though supposedly friends, will run off to the elders to snitch on you, not talk to you.
is their a real increase in those leaving ?
i do hope so, so many more finding real freedom and happiness !.
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Abuse Survivor's $4M Judgment Against Jehovah's Witness Umbrella Organization Upheld by Court 12/10/18
by Not_Culty inhttps://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization-389-52222/?slreturn=20181111101406.
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Robert H. COUNTESS and John 1:1 in the NWT
by Wonderment inrobert h. countess and john 1:1 in the nwt, part iirobert h. countess made the case in his book that the nwt ‘formulated their own principle’ on the article.
under summary and conclusions, he stated: “chapter four’s conclusions regarding the handling of [theós] indicated that nwt’s translators poorly understood the greek article, and that their principle [theós]=‘a god,’ [ho theós]= ‘god’ is not legitimate.” (p. 92) is countess conclusion correct?this is what the nwt actually said after observing that both moffatt and goodspeed rendered john 1:1c in their translations as “divine.” “careful translators recognize that the articular construction of the noun points to an identity, a personality, whereas an anarthrous contruction points to a quality about someone.” in making this statement, the nw translators also had in mind the grammar by dana & mantey, in which they stated: “when identity is prominent, we find the article; and when quality or character is stressed, the construction is anarthrous [without the article].” (p. 138) also: “there are no ‘rules’ for the use of the article in greek, but there is a fundamental principle underlying its significance – as we have seen in the foregoing section – and this gives rise to a normal usage.” (ibid, p. 141) nowhere did the nwt ever affirmed that this meant [theós] without the article is always equivalent to = ‘a god,’ and [ho theós, with the article is always to be understood as = ‘god.’ even the wts would have to agree with countess that such principle is “not legitimate.” colwell first published his book in 1982, and by then the watchtower had made their position clear enough.
in 1975 the wt wrote: “this does not mean, however, that every time an anarthrous noun occurs in the greek text it should appear in english with the indefinite article.
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This Is It?
by Nevuela ini can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.
" yeah, yeah, i know.
we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
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Too Many Categories That Most People Fall Into ... L G B T Q C G D ... I Get Confused
by RubaDub init seems like we are all getting pigeon-holed into a category that may or may not be applicable to us.
personally, i am a "d" but i am sure there are a few (though statistically insignificant) who would otherwise fall into an "o" or other category.. it just seems like society needs to label us in the l g b t q c g d communities.. rub a dub.
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Another book, that I just CANNOT put down!!!
by Beth Sarim inyesterday i just received from amazon.com is a book entitled ''awakening jehovah's witness'' by diane wilson.. just an amazing testimony.
her heart-wrenching testimony of what she went through in giving child-birth the second time, in regards' to jw standards(man-made laws) only to have the borg to a total 180 spin the (man-made) standards about a decade after the fact.
just deplorable, appalling for a lack of better words.. a great book, it's a moving book.
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Fast food delivery service?
by The Fall Guy inafter seeing this, i think i'll just go and collect it myself!.
watch the video in the article - and imagine that it was you who was waiting for this food.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46522548.
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UK Prime Minister about to get booted out?
by The Fall Guy inhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46532747.
changing the driver of a runaway (brexit) train which is speeding towards a broken down bridge over a chasm is going to do a lot of good.
why not just stop the train?.
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Charges against Jehovah's Witness accused of molesting a 4-year-girl in church dismissed
by Rattigan350 inhttps://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/12/04/charges-dismissed-against-jehovahs-witness-accused-molesting-4-year-girl/2203041002/.
harges against a man accused of molesting his 4-year-old cousin in a york county jehovah’s witness kingdom hall in 2005 have been dismissed partly because the alleged offenses occurred when he was a juvenile.. john logan haugh, now 26, who now lives in delaware, was charged in may of this year with two counts of indecent assault of a person under the age of 13 in a case that shed light on the how the jehovah’s witnesses handle child sexual assault cases.
when john haugh appeared in court tuesday morning for a pre-trial conference, his attorney and the prosecutor had a discussion with judge maria musti cook out of earshot of the gallery in courtroom 7006. when court resumed, the prosecutor moved to dismiss the charges.