Threat's and intimidation

by Norm 9 Replies latest jw friends

  • Norm
    Norm

    Doing research about Children slaves I remembered a Watchtower article from the early sixties. It had the title:

    “Children, Do You Obey Jehovah?”

    In this article the Watchtower Society really take the gloves off and give us a glimpse of it’s real personality, an excellent reflection of the very God they worship. The watchword is OBEDIENCE. And as we all know obedience to Jehovah is synonymous with obedience to the Watchtower organization. The name of the game is to gain control over other people and keep it. It doesn’t hurt to begin indoctrination as early as possible, children are like clay, you know:

    *** w62 8/15 489 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    CHILDREN born into this degenerate world are surrounded by an unwholesome influence that can ruin them. Because they are impressionable like clay, it can mold them to be like it, unless they are dominated by a good influence and guided to respect high moral standards.


    Domination and the influence from the Brooklyn multinational publishing empire will do the trick. Now, remember that all the quotes you will read here is examples of what Brooklyn consider “good influence”. The Watchtower Society always need new “distributors” to spread their worthless literature. And what better way of doing that than to fool people into thinking that doing such work is a “service” to God. So listen to the Organization You Children, if you want to stay alive:

    *** w62 8/15 490 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    GOOD REASONS TO OBEY HIM
    6 You can never go wrong by obeying Jehovah. What he tells you through his Word and organization is for your best interests and for the prolonging of your life.

    Of course neither adults nor children can be relied on to decide for themselves what to think and what to believe. That would mean the end of the Watchtower Society. Real slaves should always let someone else think and decide for them, and who better than the Watchtower Society?:

    *** w62 8/15 490 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    Even adults cannot rightfully and safely decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong but must rely upon God’s laws. The wise course is to follow this advice: “Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.”—Prov. 3:5, 6.

    So trust in “Jehovah”=The Watchtower Society, they will decide what is best for you. And of course it is the only sure way of survival when Jehovah butcher the rest of mankind. Again, obedience to “Jehovah” and the whole hierarchy of the Watchtower Society means survival, failing to dedicate your life to distribute whatever bilge the Watchtower Society turn out will mean certain death. You children shouldn’t think that Jehovah will be sparing you just because you are a child, trust the Watchtower, he will slaughter you just as easy as he slaughter your parents:

    *** w62 8/15 490-1 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    By being obedient to Jehovah it is possible to have life always, for it is written: “This is the promised thing that he himself promised us, the life everlasting.” (1 John 2:25) But he has promised it only to those that love and obey him, not to those that disobey. He can no more be expected to give the gift of life to children that disobey him than can good parents be expected to give a promised gift to disobedient children. Instead of giving a gift the parents would punish disobedient children. Jehovah is not different. “He will render to each one according to his works: everlasting life to those who are seeking glory and honor and incorruptibleness by endurance in work that is good; however, for those who are contentious and who disobey the truth but obey unrighteousness there will be wrath and anger, tribulation and distress.”—Rom. 2:6-9.

    Do you feel restricted and confined by all the written and unwritten laws of the Watchtower Society? Do you feel that their interference and their constant surveillance of your life is suffocating? Don’t think that just because you observe a lot of people leading normal lives, isn’t immediately zapped by Jehovah, that he isn’t going to butcher them in the end:

    *** w62 8/15 491 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    10 Because you children within the Christian organization see those outside it doing things that are forbidden to you, you may at times feel that the Scriptural restrictions on you are confining. You may be tempted to disregard them when you see that those outside are not struck down by lightning or swallowed up by the earth for doing what is Scripturally wrong. To conclude that you too can do what is wrong without harm to yourselves would be a serious mistake. Because wrongdoing is not punished immediately, that does not mean wrongdoers will not be punished.

    Why do you think the Watchtower literature is so chock-full of urgings, directions and instructions about “serving” to the rank and file Witnesses? Because they are so reluctant to “serve” of course:

    *** w62 8/15 493 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    19 God has no pleasure in the person that serves him reluctantly and has to be prodded continually by others to do the divine will. If you truly love your Creator you will want to obey him.

    Jehovah will of course not hesitate for a second in exterminating children who don’t participate in pushing Watchtower magazines on people. So all you children out there who think life is just fun and games, use your vacation periods to spread the Brooklyn message of doom and gloom or be “terminated” by Jehovah:

    *** w62 8/15 493 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    21 Activity in the Christian ministry cannot be confined to adults. It is a privilege of service that you children can Scripturally participate in and should engage in. If you want to obey Jehovah you will engage regularly in the ministerial activities that are arranged by the theocratic organization. Aside from weekly service in the ministry that the organization makes available to you, it gives you the splendid opportunity to serve your Creator every day during vacation periods by being a vacation pioneer out in the witness field. What better way is there to spend the major portion of a vacation? Since the proclamation of Jehovah’s truths and purposes to the people has been commanded by him, do you obey him by zealously engaging in it regularly?

    A “wrong attitude” is also quite deadly for children. Not only are you obliged to “serve” the Watchtower Society but you also better LIKE it, or else:

    *** w62 8/15 494 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    Shunning such responsibilities by rejecting the assignments reveals a wrong mental attitude, an unwillingness to use your strength and abilities fully in advancing the interests of God’s kingdom. This is not serving him with delight. It is not showing wholehearted devotion to him. Do not reject theocratic assignments but be grateful that you were found worthy of greater service privileges.

    Of course in 1962 as always the end was imminent, so if you children don’t want to be road kill very “shortly” you better obey. Remember there is no point in appealing to Jehovah and say, “but we are only children”:

    *** w62 8/15 494 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    26 We are living in a momentous time in human history, not from the standpoint of the remarkable inventions man has produced, but from the standpoint of Jehovah’s purposes. It is the long-foretold time of the end for the present wicked world. Shortly Jehovah will terminate its existence in the battle of Armageddon and usher in a new world of righteousness. It is a serious time for children as well as adults, because children that do not obey Jehovah will not be among the survivors of that battle. God will not preserve them into his new world merely because they are children.

    Just take a look at how totally merciless Jehovah is according to the Bible. He has killed a lot of children before, just look at the wonderful example mentioned by Ezekiel. Unless you are participating in pushing Watchtower literature you don’t stand much of a chance, so you better buckle down to it, or - :

    *** w62 8/15 494-5 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    This is evident from the fact that he did not preserve the young children through the flood of Noah’s day just because they were children. It is also shown in the book of Ezekiel that just because you are young is no reason for God’s keeping you alive. Ezekiel wrote: “Slay utterly the old man, the young man and the virgin, and little children and women; but come not near any man upon whom is the mark.” (Ezek. 9:6, AS) Your being children who worship and serve Jehovah as he has commanded and who have the mark of protection—ah yes, that will mean preservation and life for you.

    It is impossible to obtain the “mark” if you don’t participate in the “ministry” and mind you don’t fail to attend the “meetings” either:

    *** w62 8/15 495 Children, Do You Obey Jehovah? ***
    27 The question, Do you obey Jehovah? is so important that your continued existence and eternal welfare depend upon your being able to give an affirmative answer. If you cannot, then take immediate steps so that you can. Gain an extensive knowledge of Jehovah’s written Word and purposes and use that knowledge regularly in the ministry. Do not fail to be at congregational meetings of the New World society of Jehovah’s witnesses. Be wise by walking the path of obedience to Jehovah before Armageddon, that you may be alive after Armageddon.

    Yes, the “New World Society” is indeed quite a “paradise”. How wonderful to live in such an environment. Obey the Watchtower Society or die! Can anyone really imagine a better way to spend ones entire life?

    Norm.

  • dedalus
    dedalus

    Oh my, Norm. Thank you for posting this ... I will be using it.

    Dedalus

  • MacHislopp
    MacHislopp

    Hello Norm,

    thanks for the quotes. Again it is clear
    all the thinking behind the scene. How different from
    the "wording " used now from the P.R. and the various
    "Press Release". Clearly, twisted tongue, deceit and
    false information, but as you mentioned at the time of
    the quotes...ARMAGHEDON was AGAIN around the corner!!

    Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

    PS. You've guessed again...quotes for the files!

  • larc
    larc

    Norm,

    I think your analysis illustrates two important lessons for the Christian congregation. To wit, God loves you, and if you don't believe it, he is going to kill you, and, in the congregation, the flogging will continue until morale improves.

    (The term, to wit, is an inside joke.)

  • Jeremy Bravo
    Jeremy Bravo

    Norm,

    As always, a great post. I always keep an eye out for the research you present and comment on. When I was studying with the Dubs 3 years ago, I remember these types of articles coming out now and then, only not with the same "ferocity" used back in '62.

    These articles were a big reason I left, because I was torn between my faith and the fact that the WTS had never proved one necessary premise: that they are God's organization and that following their words is equivalent to following God. Much research into works similar to yours proved that they cannot now or ever prove that assertion.

    Jer.

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hi,

    Thank You. As you know Jeremy, the neat thing about faith is that you have to believe things. Anyone can claim that they speak for God, no one can prove it so it is down to faith. In this regard the WTS has just as much "evidence" on their side as anyone else making the same claim.

    Religion is a huge industry which only merchandise is sheer superstition, tales and fantasies. Their customers are more or less gullible people who believe in what they peddle. Somehow all kinds of totally insane ideas become reality when you believe.

    An example. If your own sister claimed that God had made her pregnant, both you and others would be quite embarrassed and think she had gone insane. Yet somehow, people think that this actually happened because a book written by extremly superstitious people a long time ago say it did. Somehow it all becomes "credible" because it happen such a loong time ago. In religion the "credibility" always increase with distance in miles and time.

    The Bible is full of that kind of claims of such extraordinary things happening. Today we never observe such phenomenons, why? Because they don't happen, and of course they didn't happen back then either.

    Norm

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hi Larc,

    I agree. God seems to have a very strange concept of love. He will kill all those who do not hold the "correct" faith. His "ground crew" is adding to the confusion by disagreeing on almost anything.

    They bicker about trinity, salvation and whatnot. They range from raving fundies who "believe" every word in the Bible to the "pick and chose" believers who has dismissed the Bible altogether and made their own private religion.

    In this extreme mess I don't envy those who actually try to find the "right" faith.

    Take care,

    Norm

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hello MacHislopp,

    You said:

    How different from the "wording " used now from the P.R. and the various "Press Release".

    Yes indeed. Brooklyn has toned down the blood, gore and total genocide a lot these days. In Awake! the various articles about unemployment, pollution, poverty, child labor etc, always end with telling the reader how "soon" all of those problems will be solved, always surgically avoiding explaning HOW this is going to be done.

    Even in Brooklyn they seem to understand that most people wouldn't quite consider exterminating the poor, unemployed etc, a very desirable solution to anything. Apparetly only a few human beings have thought that this is a good concept. People like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Milosevic and such have really tried God's idea in practise and somehow it wasn't appreciated.

    Take care,

    Norm

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Norm,

    Greetings old friend and fellow muckraker!

    No need to comment on your work: it is top-shelf, as usual. I would expect nothing less from you, and you always deliver.

    You said:

    : Doing research about Children slaves I remembered a Watchtower article from the early sixties. It had the title:

    : “Children, Do You Obey Jehovah?”

    I also remember the article in that same era: "Remember Jehovah in the Day's of Your Youth." In fact, I wrote a piece on it years ago for H20. I followed that advice and gave my precious youth to them and their Corporation. "Remember Jehovah in the Days of Your Youth" actually meant "Remember the Watchtower Printing Corporation in the days of your youth since that same Corporation insists that THEY speak for Jehovah, because Jehovah doesn't speak to us anymore. He speaks for them and their various Corporations."

    They lied. I squandered several decades of my life for their Corporation believing their lies.

    No longer.

    But then again, I'm "just bitter." It doesn't matter that they lied. To braindead dubs it only matters that I'm "just bitter" because they lied. Duh!

    Farkel

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hi Farkel,

    Thank you for your kind words, you also said:

    But then again, I'm "just bitter." It doesn't matter that they lied. To braindead dubs it only matters that I'm "just bitter" because they lied. Duh!

    Farkel

    Amen Farkel, we apostates are very "bitter"[=posting documented information about the WTS, that no JW can refute). We are also "agressive"(=telling the truth about the WTS in i direct manner). But as we all know no "true Christian" have to listen to "bitter" and "agressive" people, they can just dismiss everything.
    JW's has much in common with other "True Christians" that if truth and facts isn't presented in a "nice way", preferably in such a "nice way" that the facts and the content is completly gone, they don't have to take it serious. Neat, eh?

    Take care,

    Norm

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