Catholic Church: Sorry little girl... you're going to hell

by Elsewhere 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    And there is nothing you can do about it because you can't eat bread!

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html

    Church says girl's communion not valid

    BRIELLE, New Jersey (AP) -- An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman Catholic doctrine.

    Haley Waldman, 8, is shown in her communion gown in this undated family photo.

    Now, Haley Waldman's mother is pushing the Diocese of Trenton and the Vatican to make an exception, saying the girl's condition should not exclude her from the sacrament, which commemorates the Last Supper of Jesus Christ before his crucifixion. The mother believes a rice Communion wafer would suffice.

    "It's just not a viable option. How does it corrupt the tradition of the Last Supper? It's just rice versus wheat," said Elizabeth Pelly-Waldman.

    Church doctrine holds that Communion wafers, like the bread served at the Last Supper, must have at least some unleavened wheat. Church leaders are reluctant to change anything about the sacrament.

    "This is not an issue to be determined at the diocesan or parish level, but has already been decided for the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world by Vatican authority," Trenton Bishop John M. Smith said in a statement last week.

    Haley was diagnosed with celiac sprue disease when she was 5. The disorder occurs in people with a genetic intolerance of gluten, a food protein contained in wheat and other grains.

    When consumed by celiac sufferers, gluten damages the lining of the small intestine, blocking nutrient absorption and leading to vitamin deficiencies, bone-thinning and sometimes gastrointestinal cancer.

    The diocese has told Haley's mother that the girl can receive a low-gluten wafer, or just drink wine at Communion, but that anything without gluten does not qualify. Pelly-Waldman rejected the offer, saying her child could be harmed by even a small amount of the substance.

    Haley's Communion controversy isn't the first. In 2001, the family of a 5-year-old Massachusetts girl with the disease left the Catholic church after being denied permission to use a rice wafer.

    Some Catholic churches allow no-gluten hosts, while others do not, said Elaine Monarch, executive director of the Celiac Disease Foundation, a California-based support group for sufferers.

    "It is an undue hardship on a person who wants to practice their religion and needs to compromise their health to do so," Monarch said.

    The church has similar rules for Communion wine. For alcoholics, the church allows a substitute for wine under some circumstances, however the drink must still be fermented from grapes and contain some alcohol. Grape juice is not a valid substitute.

    Haley, a shy, brown-haired tomboy who loves surfing and hates wearing dresses, realizes the consequences of taking a wheat wafer.

    "I'm on a gluten-free diet because I can't have wheat. I could die," she said last week.

    Last year, as the third grader approached Holy Communion age in this Jersey Shore town, her mother told officials at St. Denis Catholic Church in Manasquan that the girl could not have the standard host.

    After the church's pastor refused to allow a substitute, a priest at a nearby parish volunteered to offer one, and in May, Haley wore a white Communion dress, and received the sacrament alongside her mother, who had not taken Communion since she herself was diagnosed with the disease.

    Last month, the diocese told the priest that the church would not validate Haley's sacrament because of the substitute wafer.

    "I struggled with telling her that the sacrament did not happen," said Pelly-Waldman. "She lives in a world of rules. She says 'Mommy, do we want to break a rule? Are we breaking a rule?"'

    Pelly-Waldman is seeking help from the Pope and has written to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome, challenging the church's policy.

    "This is a church rule, not God's will, and it can easily be adjusted to meet the needs of the people, while staying true to the traditions of our faith," Pelly-Waldman wrote in the letter.

    Pelly-Waldman -- who is still attending Mass every Sunday with her four children -- said she is not out to bash the church, just to change the policy that affects her daughter.

    "I'm hopeful. Do I think it will be a long road to change? Yes. But I'm raising an awareness and I'm taking it one step at a time," she said.

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    For the love of freakin GOD

  • simplesally
    simplesally

    This is very sad.

    You know, I know that religions have their rules but their are also compassionate men in every religion. I have been to the Vatican, I was a member of the Catholic Church for 28 years. When I met with a priest about becoming a JW and why I was not going to continue being Catholic he was most understanding and said the Catholic Church is trying to change but it takes a long time sometimes. This priest was a Vatican priest and I was in a little room with just him and then my dad came in........at first it seemed like 'deprogramming' was going to happen but then he offered me a drink and we just talked. He told my dad not to worry and that I was still a spiritual God-loving person. We went out to dinner and of all things, found the Bethel HQ for me in Rome and had the meeting times for me in case I wanted to go because my dad and I could not find it since I had not researched it beforehand!! When a man does that for you even though he does not believe the same way..........it's real love. It's was like saying "bless you my child go on your path"..........I wish that for this girl.

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    Yeah Sally. I've had negative and positive experiences being Catholic.

    This is just silly. Men taking themselves too seriously. Somebody needs to slap them!

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    But isnt it going to turn into human fleash as soon as she ingest it. If the girl cant have wheat, but the church teaching that the bread turns to flesh. Then she should be okay. IF this is not the case why is she catholic or bothering with a ceremony that does not involve eating Jesus. I mean she might as well be a JW.

  • shamus
    shamus
    But isnt it going to turn into human fleash as soon as she ingest it. If the girl cant have wheat, but the church teaching that the bread turns to flesh. Then she should be okay. IF this is not the case why is she catholic or bothering with a ceremony that does not involve eating Jesus. I mean she might as well be a JW.

    But the wheat is the symbol of flesh; thus flesh's light's flesh. Jesus wish he could be in the flesh in the bowels of the child; yet the flesh does not turn to wheat; it turns to flesh's light's flesh. Therefore, we can assume that the flesh, notwistanding the wheat scenario, can turn itself back into wheat. Therefore, the wheat shall not be passed in the excrement. It shall be reborn into the utmost of the fleshiest part of the child. Can we not assume, then, that Jesus will save this child from the flesh?

  • avishai
    avishai

    Geez, C'mon, it did'nt take the dubs to teach me that the catholic hierarchy is a bunch of douchbags

  • ESTEE
    ESTEE

    Equivalent to the dubs teaching that children will die at Armageddon.

    ESTEE

  • avengers
    avengers
    Catholic Church: Sorry little girl... you're going to hell

    At least I'll be in good company.

    (not for a while yet though)

  • poppers
    poppers

    Having grown up Catholic this is the saddest thing I've ever heard of. Not to make allowances for such cases is despicable, all in the name of some rigid belief which has nothing to do with today's reality. Shameless - even as an ex-Catholic I find it embarrassing.

    Organized religion, regardless of denomination, is the very thing preventing people from seeing God in eachother and in themselves.

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