by VM44 9 Replies latest jw friends
Someone posted a link to a site that had some WT publications online.
I cannot find that post now, even though I used the Google search.
In particular I wanted the "The Word, Who Is He According to John"
Does anyone know where that site is?
Thanks.
--VM44
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http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/word.html
I think this is what yer lookin for VM..
actually several of the bookltes there..
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/
Sincerely,
Distreict Overbeer
Valibrary
I'd forgotten about that one. The scary thing is that after seeing the picture of the front cover I remembered it well.
Isn't this the one from 1950s that quotes Johannes Greber and bases a big part of the argument on the old canard of 1 + 1 +1 = 3? I read it long ago when I was still in the dubs...found it in an elder's library....
Vallis, Thanks, that is indeed the website I was looking for.
Blondie, thank you for doing the book search. It might be worthwhile to order an actual copy of the booklet.
Leolaia, yep! this is that booklet. Here is booklet quoting Greber:
Similar is the reading by a former Roman Catholic priest: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through the Word, and without it nothing created sprang into existence." (John l:l-3)** (** The New Testament -A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts, by Johannes Greber (a translation from German into English), edition of 1937, the front cover of this bound translation being stamped with a golden cross.)
"A New Translation and Explanation", yes, based upon "Spirit Voices"!
--VM44
Good find, Valis!
VM44....Yeah, I remember when I was 15 when I read it and thought how scholarly it was.
*** w83 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers · Why, in recent years, has The Watchtower not made use of the translation by the former Catholic priest, Johannes Greber?
This translation was used occasionally in support of renderings of Matthew 27:52, 53 and John 1:1, as given in the New World Translation and other authoritative Bible versions. But as indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of The New Testament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on "God?s Spirit World" to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: "His wife, a medium of God?s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God?s Messengers to Pastor Greber." The Watchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber?s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his New Testament.
The WTS would like us to think it wasn't until 1980 that they knew of Greber's spiritistic background.
w55 10/1 p. 603 Part 3: What Do the Scriptures Say About "Survival After Death"? ***
It comes as no surprise that one Johannes Greber, a former Catholic clergyman, has become a spiritualist and has published the book entitled "Communication with the Spirit World, Its laws and Its Purpose." (1932, Macoy Publishing Company, New York) In its Foreword he makes the typical misstatement: "The most significant spiritualistic book is the Bible; for its principal contents hinge upon the messages of the beyond to those existing in the present."
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w56 2/15 pp. 110-111 Triumphing over Wicked Spirit Forces ***Says Johannes Greber in the introduction of his translation of The New Testament, copyrighted in 1937: "I myself was a Catholic priest, and until I was forty-eight years old had never as much as believed in the possibility of communicating with the world of God?s spirits. The day came, however, when I involuntarily took my first step toward such communication, and experienced things that shook me to the depths of my soul. . . . My experiences are related in a book that has appeared in both German and English and bears the title, Communication with the Spirit-World: Its Laws and Its Purpose." (Page 15, ¶ 2, 3) In keeping with his Roman Catholic extraction Greber?s translation is bound with a gold-leaf cross on its stiff front cover. In the Foreword of his aforementioned book ex-priest Greber says: "The most significant spiritualistic book is the Bible." Under this impression Greber endeavors to make his New Testament translation read very spiritualistic.
