Lee and Doodle don't be suprised about spanking an new born infant. My brother in law did that to his babies. I was ferocious when I saw him hit and yell at his newborn. I wanted to smash him and tell my sister why the hell do u let your husband take your infant and smack it. And she said, well that is his way. I was ashamed of her and him. And it effected my feelings towards my sister. She couldn't stand up to this boob.
I knew it would come back to bite him someday, as his two older kids couldn't wait to move out of home as soon as they were of legal age to do so.. As for their younger child he is 14 but they live in Australia and they moved shortly after this son was born. But he probably did smack him around. Although their boy is a sissy kid and the last time I saw him in 1999, I guess , he was not a happy child. He was very hyper and whined and cried all the time and always wanted to hold on to my sister. So I am suspicious that he also was disciplined in the same manner as her other two grown kids were. Now..
I have a sister in Ottawa Canada and she would also smack her infants and she and her husband were always broke and so she would stay weeks on end at our place while my ex husband would find her husband work. We lived in Montreal at this time. I hated it as she screamed and smacked her son with such violence I turned to her and sad to her, if you want to stay in our home you had better not hit that little man like that ever again. I told her she was a bitch. I thought ,
yes she will never come and beg of us again for money and food. She always called when I would do bulk shopping and she knew when I would do it. But alas I was wrong, as I know a leopard never changes her spots. She'd show up with the kids and husband. I always felt terrible for her children and that is the only reason I helped was for the sake of the kids. Many times she would call and say she has no food in the house or the baby needs food, so once I called one of the elders in her congregation and told him about their plight as it were and apparently they made a swift visit to her home with boxes of food. And she called me to tell me, you will never guess what happened and I knew because I was the one who called the elder to help them. I eventually made a trip up to see her when the kids were young and again with her so called poverty story she said she had no food for the kids. So I opened her cupboards and said to her what is all that food in the cans. Oh she said vegatable and stuff. Yams and white potatoes. I said have you ever heard of a blender and she said yes and I said so get the thing out and put the veggies in the blender with a little salt and butter and blend it and heat it and feed your children. Oh I never thought of that she say and I told her use the brains God gave her and to think. After her children started getting older my sister and her husband would feed themselves steaks and give the kids a sandwich. God I hated her for that. I couldn't believe that I had three sisters who couldn't take proper care of their children. Yes I said three sisters. The other sister lives five minutes from me and she too when her baby was an little boy she would smack him around all the time, in fact one day she threw her young boy down the stairs . Apparently she called mom and dad and told them what had happened. But we all knew she was responsible. My dad was an elder and he never reported her it was always hush hush when it came to her as she was the youngest and the most loved child then me. She once told my father off and told him to mind his own buisness. My mom would often ask me to talk to her about how she treated her son and I tried and she as much said the same thing to me as she did to dad. I remember when her little fellow would accidently spill his drink of milk at the table she would scream and smack him around. I told her he didn't do on purpose. I said you have made your son afraid of you and everytime you give him a drink you threaten him. One day when he was around 9-10 yrs he spill a drink and he jumped up from the table just to escape my sisters wrath. Or he would cower by putting his hands up in defense of himself. I told him it was okay, I said honey Aunt Terry spills things too and I know you didn't do it on purpose so relax and enjoy your meal I would get him another drink. My sister would be furious with me. So what I thought. She was to hard on her fellows. I once spoke to the doctor about her and he asked me where she lived and I do believe that he had the Childrens Aid Society come to her home. My sister was always picking on the boys and I tell her to lay off and she say mind your own business and I said no not any more I hate the way you treat your children and it is wrong and one of these days the boys will speak up to the brothers or mom and dad and I said you had better be careful as it could go bad for you. I know she had alot of pressure from her husband he was not a witness back then and he made her live miserable and eventually he started to study aand apparently today he is an elder. But that was still no excuse for the way she treated her sons.. Go figure. I can't figure it out why why was it that I had three sisters who were brutal to their children. I would never not ever treat a child or an infant in any way badly let alone in a physical punishment. I am totally aghast at the way they were. I am ashamed of all my sisters and all three of them are in the organization. How come I was the only one to not treat my son the way they treated their children. There was a secret as a young child my father was violent with us, but the other kids were very young and the last one wasn't even born. He would hit me for no reason what so ever. He just wanted to smack me around and I swore if I ever have a child I would never treat my child the way he treated me and mom and the other two girls. But I just hope that when my sisters kids have kids of their own they don't do to them the things their mothers did to them..... My sister from Ottawa, well her son was in trouble all the time with the elders and then with the law for stealing drunkedness. How sad. Her daughter was born with fetal alcohol syndrome as she drank all through her pregnacy. She was never repremanded for her conduct as they drank several bottles of wine a DAY and Beer too. So its any wonder that my niece has this condition. She is sweet and vuneralble to my sister. My sister one day told me she had children so that when she got older they would do things for her. All she wanted was slaves. She visited me a few years ago and stayed for a month this is when my dad passsed away in 1995 and I was not well I was ill at that time and she wouldn't get off her fat ass once to help with anything she had her daughter and son do everything around my house. I told them that they are to sit and enjoy themselves I told them it is your mother who has to help me and she would begudgingly get up and do a couple things around the house. She make obese persons look bad. She is as obese as me but I don't have a lazy bone in my body. Gee I wonder how I ever turned out to be a nice person and normal and they are all a bunch of cruel moms and dads.
I am sorry this is long but I thought it important to tell you my story
Love as always Orangefatcat..
