Books on Ostracism/Excommunication

by Larry 4 Replies latest jw friends

  • Larry
    Larry

    Anybody read the book "Beyond Mormonism - An Elders Story"? I'm about to read it on line ( www. beyondmormonism.com).

    I'm trying to read books about folks from other religions being excommunicated. I've read "Little X" - Story of a female who grew up in the inside the nation of Islam. Also, "Inside the Nation of Islam" - Story of a chose follower of Farrakhan that left. Anybody know of any books regarding Jews or any other religion where the member was ostracized for their beleifs or actions? BTW - What is the name of the Jewish practice where the family members considers the dissenter Jew dead?

    Much Thanks - LL

  • Francois
    Francois

    That Jewish ceremony you're talking about is called "Burning the Coffin." A friend from high school had his coffin burned when he married a goyim (gentile) in college.

    You might want to read Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer" for a really good look at what underlies them all; all cults of whatever type. One of the top three books I ever read.

    For a peek into the mind of middle-eastern men, I recommend "The Haj," Leon Uris. Although it's a novel, it's an historical novel. Many insights.

    francois

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Hello,

    Another valuable exercise is to examine the history of 'shunning' procedures in recent history. How the WTS and other high control groups disciplines its adherents is very similar indeed to the C19th methodology used by such as the Quakers, Methodists etc. The WTS is particularly aggressive in its application of disciplinary measures but it by no means invented 'disfellowshipping'.

    As time progressed most of these smaller groups practicing its own internal judicial system gradually evolved with pressing social change and began to divide what were considered to be wrongdoing into matters of faith sanctionable by the church, and crimes against the state which were dealt with by the state. For example it might take issue with adultery and deal with this matter within the confines of the church, but the matter of stealing was handed over to the authorities to attend to. It is this issue that has taken the WTS head-to-head with the State who view child-abuse as a State matter, while the WTS seems to be treating it as an issue of a problematic faith

    Recommended books are Nathaniel Cotterell's - DISCIPLINE OF THE MEETING OF FRIENDS HELD IN NEW-YORK FOR THE STATE OF NEW-YORK AND PARTS ADJACENT published in 1856 and Bishop Harris - THE DOCTRINES AND DISCIPLINE OF THE METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH 1884 WITH AN APPENDIX published in 1884.

    The early Christians did indeed adapt the Jewish system of dealing with its wrongdoers, ( casting them out of the synagogue - and subsequently out of Jewish society ). Internalizing the judicial methodology, especially given the unpopularity of the early Christians allowed them to present a much more attractive public image, enhanced the idea of exclusivity, as well as protecting its members from outside influences. It seems that these motives are still active in these smaller religious groups.

    From the issue of blood, through disfellowshipping, I have yet to find any major doctrine, however strange, that is truly exclusive to the WTS. Over the years, they have plagerized and cannibalised vital parts from other theologies to weld together their now shaky structure. The Bible, like a little knowledge, can be a very, very dangerous thing in the wrong hands.

    Best to you in your search - HS

    Edited by - hillary_step on 30 July 2002 10:55:37

  • QUEENIE
    QUEENIE

    HI LARRY--my older brother was named Larry -- he is decd now I sure miss him he has been gone since 1990...:( queenie

  • Larry
    Larry

    Thanks for the info. I'm going to check out those books - The True Believer, The Haj and The DISCIPLINE OF THE MEETING OF FRIENDS HELD IN NEW-YORK FOR THE STATE OF NEW-YORK AND PARTS ADJACENT. Good looking out. Peace :)

    PS - Queenie - Sorry to hear about your brother, I'm sure he was a great person.

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