Confirming WTS Scholastic Dishonesty

by AlanF 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Some information I just received solidly nails the Watchtower Society's coffin shut in the intellectual honesty department.

    Since the Society published the brochure Should You Believe in the Trinity? in English in 1989, a number of people have complained that many of the citations were misrepresentations of the intent of the authors, or simply did not show what the Society's writer claimed. This is in keeping with many other WTS publications, such as the infamous 1985 Creation book, which I have demonstrated contains at least a hundred misrepresentations, misinterpretations and assorted scholastic inaccuracies.

    The Society, as usual, gives incomplete citations for its source references in the Trinity brochure. For example, it might say, "The Catholic Encyclopedia comments: ...", but it gives no volume or page number. This makes it much more difficult for anyone -- whether JWs or critics -- to check the references. Many have complained that this policy of failing to give full references for quoted material is deliberate, and is done so as to make it not worth the time of individual JWs to check them. I also claim that the Society does this to make it that much harder for critics to find their deliberate misrepresentations.

    I just received the Italian version of the Trinity brochure, and it fully justifies complaints of Watchtower intellectual dishonesty.

    It appears that Italy has some kind of regulation that requires published material to contain full source references for quoted material. Thus, the Italian Trinity brochure contains full references, including page numbers -- something that the English version leaves out. Since the Society has the references, and is demonstrably able to include them -- even making sure that the English and Italian versions of this brochure are each 32 pages long -- it follows that omission of source references is deliberate. The only reasonable explanation is that the Society wants to make it difficult for readers to check the references.

    This hesitancy to include source references goes back a long way in Watchtower history. I remember as a child reading The Watchtower and wondering why there were so few full references, especially when I wanted to look up the context in the library. One of the few exceptions was the 1985 Creation book. But the Society got burned pretty badly on this, with many people writing in to complain about the misrepresentations. The 1998 Creator book goes back to standard WTS policy and gives few full citations. Obviously, they don't want a repeat of the Creation book fiasco.

    It would be interesting for anyone who has any Italian WTS literature to compare it with the English counterparts. I wonder how many of the Italian versions contain full source references? It would make an interesting study to do this comparison.

    AlanF

    Edited by - AlanF on 8 March 2001 20:47:28

  • Thirdson
    Thirdson

    Hi Alan,

    Welcome to this board and thanks for the post. We discussed the lack of references in the "Creator" book here recently. Just knowing who some of the authors quoted in that book leads you to think that their words are being twisted to WTS of ends. With the lack of reference they can freely quote scientists one after the other even though there are decades long timespans betwen the quotes. Our friend, the Geologist Wallace Pratt, still gets a look in. "Evidence" (used in only a loose way) for the flood gets only a footnote which makes you think they are giving up on the deluge as history.

    I'd be interested in references in Italian publications as there are some Awake articles I like to know where the quotes come from. Is there such a thing as an Italian WTS CD-ROM? Keep asking around.

    It is good to see you here. Do post some more stuff.

    Regards,

    Thirdson

    'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    An extensive compilation of photo documented evidence, proving the dishonesty of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's booklet

    "SHOULD YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY"

    can be obtained from Randy at Freeminds.

    Get the book, "EXPOSING SHOULD YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY by Angel Arellano Jr.

    I have shown this to several active JW's. It leaves them wondering why the WT was so deliberate in misquoting and just flat out being deceptive.

  • hosebracket
    hosebracket

    I have written 2 letters to the society re scholastic dishonesty and they can be seen on my web site www.607v587.com

    Let me know what you think.

    Hose bracket

  • ianao
    ianao

    horebracket:

    On the site, when you wrote your "final letter to bethel", you said at the end of it: "I look forward to your comments."

    What happened? Did they DF/DA you, or what? It looks like you were looking for further correspondence.

  • ianao
    ianao

    (Duplicate)

    Edited by - ianao on 9 March 2001 11:4:34

  • ianao
    ianao

    (Duplicate)

    Edited by - ianao on 9 March 2001 11:5:24

  • TR
    TR

    Hosebracket,

    None of the links to your letters and replies would work for me. Maybe I'll try later.

    TR

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