Jehovah "Tempers his Justice"

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  • Norm
    Norm

    Someone among the top brass in Brooklyn have had a rare moment of thought and come up with another “adjustment” in the endless line Watchtower Society “New Light”.

    Some of you probably remember when they became tired of the expression: “The Society says”, which of course identified to clearly who is really God in the lives of the Witnesses, so they had to tell the Witnesses to stop using that expression because it was extremely embarrassing.

    This time it is another expression that shouldn’t be used. Not at all of the magnitude of the example above but still sufficiently important to someone, probably in the GB. I guess it took a couple of heated sessions in the GB to get this approved. Anyway, here goes:

    OUESTIONS FROM READERS
    Is it correct to say that Jehovah's mercy tempers his justice?
    30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002
    The magazine answers:

    Although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid it since it seems to imply that Jehovah's mercy softens or restrains his justice, as if his mercy were superior to the harsher quality of justice. This is not correct.
    30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002

    Well, of course! We can’t have anyone believing that God’s mercy is superior to or stronger than his justice. For those who cling to the idea that God is omni this and that can’t have any internal imbalance in his qualities you know!

    Jehovah is a God of both justice and mercy. (Exodus 34:6, 7; Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 145:9) His justice and his mercy are both perfect, and they work together harmoniously. (Psalm 116:5; Hosea 2:19) Both qualities perfectly balance or complement each other. Hence, if we were to say that Jehovah's mercy tempered his justice, we would also have to say that his justice tempered his mercy.
    30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002
    Who were the idiots that didn’t have this profound wisdom in the first place? Of course it couldn’t be the Faithful and discreet slave could it? Well, let’s have a look:

    *** w65 7/1 415 Tempering Justice with Mercy ***
    As during Noah’s day when Jehovah tempered his justice by deferring execution for 120 years, so today he tempers his justice by deferring his war, called “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Rev. 16:14) Since 1918, he has shown undeserved kindness toward disobedient mankind by holding back his executional forces in the heavens in order that some “flesh would be saved.”

    Apparently Jehovah didn’t possess this perfect balance in the days of Noah because we have the Word of the Watchtower magazine itself that Jehovah had to “temper his justice” for 120 years. Of course it will be equally wrong to say that Jehovah will show anyone “undeserved kindness”. Since he is perfect he will be unable to show mercy towards those who don’t deserve it, right?

    Jehovah seems to have several problems according to the Watchtower magazine because here he is again:

    *** w97 12/1 10-11 Jehovah, a God "Ready to Forgive" ***
    Why Is Jehovah “Ready to Forgive”?
    4 We read: “As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset, so far off from us he has put our transgressions. As a father shows mercy to his sons, Jehovah has shown mercy to those fearing him.” Why is Jehovah disposed to show mercy? The next verse answers: “For he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.” (Psalm 103:12-14) Yes, Jehovah does not forget that we are creatures of dust, having frailties, or weaknesses, as a result of imperfection. The expression that he knows “the formation of us” reminds us that the Bible likens Jehovah to a potter and us to the vessels he forms. (Jeremiah 18:2-6) A potter handles his clay vessels firmly yet delicately, ever mindful of their nature. So, too, Jehovah, the Great Potter, tempers his dealings with us according to the frailty of our sinful nature.—Compare 2 Corinthians 4:7.
    Again Jehovah seems to be quite a shoddy “potter” having made such bad quality pottery. But according to the Bible he at least seems to be aware of how he has screwed up, at least some times. But the Watchtower magazine has occasionally reminded us about how utterly without any chance we are if it wasn’t for God’s constantly tempers his “cold justice” with “kindness and mercy”:

    *** w65 7/1 413-4 Tempering Justice with Mercy ***
    Tempering Justice with Mercy
    IN THE shop of an apothecary there usually is a set of balance scales that is capable of weighing very small amounts of fine powder. A standard weight is placed on one pan and powder is put on the other one until there is enough powder to balance the weight. Justice is like that scale. When a person’s actions are compared with a specific law and they do not balance out because he has been disobedient to that law, justice requires that he be punished. This action balances the scales of justice. But should the rendering of justice be limited to the cold balancing of matters?
    The great God of the universe has given mankind good laws, and from time to time he has had to balance the scales of justice by punishing those who violate those laws. In so doing, however, he warms up cold justice and tempers it with kindness and mercy. A representing angel said of him: “Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth.” (Ex. 34:6) Such are the gracious qualities he puts into the scales of justice.
    When one violates God’s law, thus throwing off balance the scales of divine justice, action must be taken to right matters. Strict justice calls for punishment to the full extent specified by the law. However, when heartfelt repentance is shown on the part of the wrongdoer, mercy can be extended. Such mercy is not something that God owes to one who violates His law; it is an undeserved kindness, but the sincere repentance of the sinner provides a basis for mercy to be shown. As a result there may be a lessening of the punishment administered. In the case of King David, the sentence of death was not carried out on him when he sinned with Uriah’s wife because of his sincere repentance. “David now said to Nathan: ‘I have sinned against Jehovah.’ At this Nathan said to David: ‘Jehovah, in turn, does let your sin pass by. You will not die.’” (2 Sam. 12:13) But he was punished by losing his infant son by Bathsheba.

    Above we get a reminder of how Jehovah apparently meted out his “tempering” of his “cold justice” in the case of David. Of course he did this by killing Bathsheba’s baby. Well, those of us who are familiar with Jehovah and Moses treatment of Midianite and Canaanite babies and children aren’t very surprised. Babies are quite expendable and who would bother to ask Bathsheba what she would think about her dead baby? How about parenting?

    *** w55 7/15 421 How Bible Principles Apply to Your Life ***
    The instructions about child training? The responsibility is upon the parents to train the children in the right way. “Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it.” Proper parental authority must be exercised: “Withhold not correction from the child; for if thou beat him with the rod, he will not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from Sheol.” However, this should never be in anger, just to ease the parent’s emotions, but should be tempered with mercy, justice and love, and should be consistent, just as Jehovah tempers his discipline with mercy, justice and love and is always consistent. To parents who themselves set the right example, and who properly discharge this obligation, delinquency is no problem.—Prov. 22:6; 23:13, 14, A .

    Well, now no Jehovah's Witness can imitate Jehovah again, because Brooklyn has come to the conclusion that Jehovah does not TEMPER his justice. So when you feel it is appropriate you should follow the Biblical counsel of beating the crap out of your children and stone them if necessary.

    *** w52 8/15 489-90 In the Image and Likeness of God ***
    God’s law in Israel stipulated regular provision for the poor, and not on the basis of favors in return, either. (Ex. 23:11) Furthermore, Jehovah tempers his absolute justice with undeserved kindness, something for which modern man has no parallel in his merciless international dealings. Were it not for this mercy none of us would have been born following the rebellion of Adam. But this does not require God to simply overlook this fallen world’s travesty on justice, as he shows by the warning to Israel when guilty of the same:
    Yes, isn’t it heartwarming to see how Jehovah’s organization cares for the hungry and the unfortunate children in the world? In stark contrast to the UN and the Churches of Christendom, the “Man of Lawlessness” which never do anything. I mean the Watchtower Society do almost as much (gasp) as Jehovah himself to help the poor.

    *** op 28 Our Problems-Who Will Help Us Solve Them? ***
    “The Bible tells us that our problems started when the first human pair that God created misused their free will and chose to disobey God’s wise instructions. God had warned them of the punishment for doing so—loss of perfection, loss of their Paradise home, and loss of their right to continue to live on earth forever. God justly enforced his laws. This left their offspring crying, as it were, because of their great loss. But because God tempers his justice with love, he arranged to give humans the chance to regain what the first pair had lost. Like the kind gentleman in the illustration, God provided the exact price of what had been lost. He did this by sending his own spirit son from heaven to be born on earth as a human known as Jesus Christ. When Jesus willingly sacrificed his perfect human life, which was equal to the life that the first man, Adam, had forfeited, and presented the value to God, then that price could be used to buy back for humankind what had been lost, namely, perfect life forever on a paradise earth.”
    Aw, that pesky free will! Why didn’t these idiots understand that free will isn’t really FREE? I mean free will doesn’t mean that it is FREE. Like Jehovah's Witnesses is only free to do what they tell them to do from Brooklyn, so was Adam and Eve only free to do what Jehovah wanted them to do. That was FREE will! But then it wasn’t really free you might say, shut up we don’t want to hear about that. But if someone tells you that you have free will but that he will kill you if you use it, is that really free will?
    If a jailer releases you from jail and say you are free to go, then also tell you that he will shoot you if you go, is that really a free choice? Well anyway that’s the kind of free will that was offered Adam and Eve, and it is exactly the kind of free will all those wonderful Christians are recommending so warmly.

    How wonderful it is to have done a little investigation and a little thinking and being able to see how much the justice and love of God really sucks?

    Norm.

  • Focus
    Focus

    Excellent, amusing, and brand new! Thanks, NH!

    "Mercy"

    "Justice"

    Hahaha!!

    I am currently examining the Watchtower usage of "imminent". Just staking my claim, so to speak...

    --
    Focus
    (Stone by Damned Stone! Class)

  • Ranchette
    Ranchette
    OUESTIONS FROM READERS
    Is it correct to say that Jehovah's mercy tempers his justice?

    The magazine answers:

    Although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid
    it...
    so they have decided that its improper to use the term "JEHOVAH TEMPERS HIS MERCY" and some have used
    this term.

    Hmm I wonder why some have used this term?

    Once again,it's because they(the Watchtower Society) taught us to say this as Norm points out here by using their own literature to prove it!

    When they recieve these gems of new light they always word it in a way to where they take no responsibility for it and try to lay the mistaken view on others or in this case "some".

    This irritates the you know what out of me!

    btw, good post Norm.

    Ranchette

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    This one struck me too.

    Whats wrong with tempering justice with mercy? The alternative is to have a strict code of black and white "like for like" punishments as the Islamic laws or even a strict interpretation of the Jewish law? I thought the whole difference with the teaching of Jesus Christ is that he DID temper that, with mercy and loving common sense.

    Todays study article had a reference to Jesus tempering the letter of the law by not rebuking the woman with a flow of blood when she pushed through the crowd to touch him ,although "unclean"

    Do they want to be able to apply strict justice?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Thanks norm. The infuriatingly stupid watchpooper and scooper society. They don't know this god they are always talking about. My jw sister, who couldn't explain the generation change in 1995 (i explained it to her), will be even more confused now. I guess that is good.

    SS

  • VM44
    VM44

    "...Hence, if we were to say that Jehovah's mercy tempered his justice, we would also have to say that his justice tempered his mercy."

    OK...So what is wrong with that? Symmetry is preserved then.

    The WT really should remove "Brother Some" from the writing
    department. He appears to write quite a lot of material that
    has to be corrected later on.

    -VM44

  • Norm
    Norm

    Ello Folks,

    Thank you for yer kind werds. I guess posts like this sadly enough is a bit over the head of the average dub, eh?

    Norm

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Strange.
    I love those passages in the Old Testament where God Thunders to Moses:

    "Stand back from this Assembly that I might exterminate them in an instant". (His "justice" aspect?, speaking)

    Moses says "Uh ,Jehovah, If you do that the Pharoah will laugh and say, 'Their God brought them into the wilderness to destroy them' ".

    Jah responds, "Oh Thats right.Okay. I'll just kill some of them then".
    (Gods "mercy"aspect?)
    But then its not Gods mercy there is it?. Moses thought of it.
    I mean, Jah needs reminding of such an obvious point?
    Its not "mercy" anyway, rather self interest on Gods part and concern for the Appearance of His own Name in the eyes of Pharoah.

    Obviously God must be learning and growing in awareness as he goes along in his dealing with mankind.
    But if that is so, then how can he be claimed as perfect?

  • TMS
    TMS

    Thank you Norm for this research.

    The initial KM School I attended Albert Schroeder discussed handling judicial cases. He specifically used the phrase "err on the side of mercy". That concept added sort of a warm feeling about judicial action.

    A few years later, in a subsequent "school", the instructor made it a point to strike down the "err on the side of mercy" philosophy. He said that was simply incorrect. We were not to "err" at all, simply administer justice.

    TMS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I guess the adage 'god IS love' is just a meaningless bunch of letters strung together, w a few spaces for a balanced appearance, at least as far as the wt is conderned.

    SS

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