The War of The Elders: Dubs & $$$

by Mindchild 5 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mindchild
    Mindchild

    I thought I would take time today to share a true story of what happened in my own JW family as I was growing up as a dub that puts the spot light on what money starved dubs are willing to do when it comes to money issues.

    Both of my grandparents on both sides and my parents were dubs. When I was growing up we were never well off financially thanks to the constant harping that Armageddon was near at hand and that my father should only work just long enough to make enough money to barely get by as Jehovah would provide (yeah, right). To make ends meet in our large family, my mother used to work by taking in older people who would otherwise need to be spending their last days in a nursing home and we typically had two or three people stay with our family until got to the point where they needed to be in a hospital, and often died soon thereafter. Anyway, something strange about some dub families is that money becomes more important that blood relationships and my grandmother on my mother’s side of the family was getting way up there in years and her husband (who was the PO of a congregation in a different state) wanted to put her in a nursing home.

    After much heated conversation with my mother, he relented and decided to let her move in with my family in a different state, while he stayed where he was in his state. After a few months though, he started complaining about the costs of her care (he was a real penny pincher) and said he was going to put his foot down and pay a certain amount each month and that was that. Because of my grandmother’s medical condition, she needed the extra income to stay alive and my parents couldn’t afford it so they took the issue to the local body of elders and complained about it.

    Our body of elders sent him a letter, which showed the scriptural reasons for his obligation to take care of his wife. As he was the PO of his own congregation, his body of elders wrote back accusing my mother of financial fraud. This lead to another series of letters between congregations wherein our congregation demanded that he show up in person to prove these allegations and if he wouldn’t they were going to send copies of all the correspondence to the Society and have him removed as an elder.

    Well my grandfather was by nature an angry man and didn’t like to be bullied but to make matters worse for my mother, she was very angry with him and was padding the bills for my grandmother’s care by having her do a bunch of unnecessary medical tests, etc. that her Medicare didn’t cover to make his bills even higher. Anyway, he finally did come up with one other elder from his congregation and had a meeting with the local elders but our family never heard the results of it. Eventually, though the Circuit Overseer got involved in the fighting between congregations and they were going to setup some kind of hearing with a medical expert to see what kinds of billing was justified in taking care of my grandmother as nobody wanted to take this to court and make it public. Sadly, my grandmother was totally depressed because of all this fighting and the lack of love and she got so depressed she stopped eating, refused to move from her bed, and soon died before it went any further. I think she died from a broken heart.

    My grandmother’s favorite advice to me was “always carry a Watchtower with you, you never know when you are going to need it.” It sure did her a lot of good didn’t it?

    Skipper

  • Scully
    Scully

    Sorry to hear about all this Skipper. I can only imagine how hard that must have been for you to observe, from the viewpoint of a young man with very little or no power to help.

    I really hate that things like this happen. It bothers me that someone who has spent their whole lives giving everything they have to the WTS, can be so easily tossed on the garbage heap when they fall ill and become a financial or even an emotional "burden" to the congregation and/or family. It makes me sick.

    They are nothing but spiritual vampires, feeding off the living, sucking the life out of you, and when you can't give anymore, you're discarded like a sack of trash, so they can move on to the next happy and willing victim.

    <sigh>
    Love, Scully

    It is not persecution for an informed person
    to expose a certain religion as being false.
    - WT 11/15/63

    A religion that teaches lies cannot be true. -WT 12/1/91

  • metatron
    metatron

    a sad case - and very typical of Witnesses.

    It's quite common for elders and others to avoid charity
    in congregations by saying that they don't have the time
    because they have to go out in service. Even relatives
    in the 'truth' use it against other sick or indigent
    Witnesses, ignoring family obligations. Another handy
    excuse is that 'you suffered for the truth and put in your
    time' - maybe pioneering for years or suffering some kind
    of special persecution - so someone else should do it.

    If you have any doubts, just look at all the articles
    they have published trying to get Witnesses to care for
    sick old parents. No wonder the old farts in power look
    out for themselves - they don't want to end up the same way.

    metatron

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    It is sad that families should be ripped apart like this. But, when we lose sight of the real message of Jesus and instead put our faith in a man made organization and periodical, we allow them to tear us apart. They don't even think of the harm they are doing to children that grow up and watch all this bickering between families.

    If the Watchtower really cared about families, they would actually practice many of the things they print in articles, instead of slipping devotion to the org first, into the articles.

    If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    Mindchild-

    I am so sorry that you had to watch your grandmother waste away like that. And under those circumstances! What you described is very common, from what I saw, also. My family has had very similar 'wranglings' over money. And somehow the borg gets into the middle of it.

    As Scully said, they are vampires.

    (((((hugs)))))

  • Flip
    Flip

    One distinct advantage Brooklyn has over competing religious organizations is the lack of evidence for significant financial benefit towards their own community of needy Jehovah’s Witness, let alone the ‘soon to be biblically doomed' world community at large, relative to the amount of governmental tax largesse that provided the catalyst for the corporations’ accumulation of wealth in the first place.

    It’s my understanding that the intent behind governmental tax breaks given to religious organizations was to allow the latter to take the greater financial responsibility because they're supposed to be more sensitive at providing for the special needs of their religious and surrounding conventional communities than sterile governments of the day.

    As mindchilds’ experience illustrates, I wonder if the WTBTS is actually the corporate social citizen they paint themselves using their own publications or are they simply using their tax-free status as a 'cash cow' more blatantly than others of their sort.

    Unless of course, you think the acquisition and husbanding of corporate real estate via ‘educational’ centers in picturesque locations at the expense of rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘on the brink’, is their corporate idea of displaying a social conscience.

    Flip

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