Revelation 21:3,4 For Heretics

by Farkel 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Dubs just love Revelation 21:3,4. It is almost their mantra. It bespeaks "hope" in dubland. They interpret it this way:

    *** Rbi8 Revelation 21:3-6 ***
    3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples.

    God will, sigh, FINALLY do something about the human condition. He will actually DO something after centuries of non-interferance and indifference.

    "And God himself will be with them."

    Dubs don't exactly have a decent explanation for this one, except to say that God will somehow let those paradisers "feel" that God is around. The only positive connection to God "being" with humans is through those anointed "king/priests" who get to rule man forever and ever. You know who I'm talking about: those "anointed" jerks who were jerks in life will rule over us as "king/priest" jerks after they've died. Can't get rid of them. Sigh.

    "4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."

    Ah, Paradise on earth, complete with a return to an agrarian society and endless picnics in beautiful meadows for ever and ever and ever. No one to build any infrastructures, because everyone is too busy going to endless picnics. (Why couldn't God use a neutron bomb? The WTS pictures in their rags show God using conventional weapons to kill people and buildings. God is not a high-tech God, apparently.)

    " 5 And the One seated on the throne said: "Look! I am making all things new." Also, he says: "Write, because these words are faithful and true."

    Perhaps, but unfilfilled.

    "6 And he said to me: "They have come to pass!"

    No they haven't.

    "I am the Al'pha and the O·me'ga, the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free.

    Apparently, those "not thirsting" are screwed. Moral? Better "thirst" or you are toast.

    Ok, this is, after all, the "Revelation" so it has many interpretations. Since Fred Franz could interpret with impunity, I can interpret with impunity. I'm just as good as screwing up interpretation of scripture as he was, so I deserve a shot at it. Here's another interpretation which perfectly suits the words we're given in that book, chapter and verses. This interpretation assumes that all the verses herein stated apply to one's being dead and given that, this interpretation works, too.

    *** Rbi8 Revelation 21:3-6 ***
    3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind,

    God pitched his "tent" in a cemetery.

    "and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples."

    God hangs out in the cemetery with dead folks.

    "And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,"

    Dead people don't cry. Perfect explanation.

    "and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."

    Right. Death cannot be "any more" for those who've died. It's already a done deal. And dead people don't mourn, nor have pain. The "former things" (living) no longer exist. This bizarre explanation also fits the verse.

    "5 And the One seated on the throne said: "Look! I am making all things new."

    With everyone dead, all things are, indeed, "new." Or at least "different." If everyone were dead, then that would definitely be classed as "new."

    "Also, he says: "Write, because these words are faithful and true."

    So John thus wroteth, and Farkel thus interpretedeth.

    "6 And he said to me: "They have come to pass!"

    Well, not exactly. But you gotta give old John credit for his enthusiasm here.

    "I am the Al'pha and the O·me'ga, the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free."

    You mean I don't have to sell BOOKS? Kewl.

    Ok. So my interpretation of that verse is bizarre, but it does FIT, does it not?

    What other interpretations would fit each phrase in those verses dubs live by and dream by?

    Anyone care to take up the torch of interpretation and run with it?

    To merely say, "the whole thing is stupid" is too obvious. I already think that. Try something creative, eh?

    Farkel

    "I didn't mean what I meant."

  • ElijahTheThird
    ElijahTheThird

    Run with it? hmmmmm, and I can't just say it is stupid? hmmmm, can I just say then that you should ask one of the Anointed? *grins*

    Isn't it wrote it is to them you should seek understanding from? Since you are trying to understand the bible, they would be my choice as to ask about this passage.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : Isn't it wrote it is to them you should seek understanding from? Since you are trying to understand the bible, they would be my choice as to ask about this passage.

    Well, I would have done that, but they were the same DipFucks who gave us 1925, 1975, the "superior authorities" and "sodom and gomorrah flip-flops, Malwai/Mexico, "you don't scream when you are raped, you are DFd", "no oral sex in marriage even if you both like it", "absolute spiritual endangerment" as a bullshit way to get around the Bible, "lying is ok if the opponent doesn't deserve to hear the truth" (another bullshit way to get around the Bible)(, "spy on your own family and turn them in if you suspect apostasy", "organ transplants are canabilism", "vaccinations are filthy animal pus", "the 'heart' is the seat of all emotions", and countless other absolute bullshit.

    You get my drift, dummy? You can't trust the "anointed." They are idiots.

    Farkel

    "I didn't mean what I meant."

  • battman
    battman

    Dear Mr Farkman,

    Run with it? as in run ahead of Jah?

    Now that sounds like fun and a plan too. kewl.

    getting ready to head for the dust bin for the
    evening but just a note to let you know your
    "insight" in the striptures is, is, well.. is very
    "insightful". Just don't be a running too far
    ahead of that jealous dog. (iam dylexious)
    i mean6t to say god. H e can get real mean
    when you like touch his balls (as in eyeballs)

    God that must hurt something mean.

    Cheers and Merry Xmas,

    battman

  • battman
    battman

    Hi Farkster,

    You already probably know this, I know I almost
    always forget but

    "Never argue with an idiot cuz someone might
    hear you and not realize which one is the idiot."

    FYI, i do know it ain't you ole boy. Thanks again
    for your posts.

    Cheers,

    battman

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    battman,

    Heh, heh.

    : Run with it? as in run ahead of Jah?

    That's not really hard to do. Jah has been standing still for countless centuries. I could crawl three feet and be ahead of "Jah," the "do nothing, but promise everything 'God'.)

    Perhaps he'll soon bless us with his presence and kill a whole bunch of people. That's what he does best. If you count all the killing that "God" has done and compared it with all the "good" that 'God' has done, 'God' rates highest in the killing department. He's very good at it and he obviously knows his limitations: he sticks with what he does best.

    Farkel
    Irreverant Class

    "I didn't mean what I meant."

  • larc
    larc

    Re: Jah and the art of killing,

    For those who haven't seen it, I brought back to the top, a thread I started on the book of Joshua, called, "our sunday school lesson."

  • ElijahTheThird
    ElijahTheThird

    Farkel wrote in responce to me;>
    Well, I would have done that, but they were the same DipFucks who gave us 1925, 1975, the "superior authorities" and "sodom and gomorrah flip-flops, Malwai/Mexico, "you don't scream when you are raped, you are DFd", "no oral sex in marriage even if you both like it", "absolute spiritual endangerment" as a bullshit way to get around the Bible, "lying is ok if the opponent doesn't deserve to hear the truth" (another bullshit way to get around the Bible)(, "spy on your own family and turn them in if you suspect apostasy", "organ transplants are canabilism", "vaccinations are filthy animal pus", "the 'heart' is the seat of all emotions", and countless other absolute bullshit.

    You get my drift, dummy? You can't trust the "anointed." They are idiots.

    You trusted in the GB and their information! That was DUMB! NOT the Anointed! You were deceived by the WTBS and the GB, again YOU were dumb! As were most of the Anointed also. But then it is your choices as to how you now react to these deceptions. The Anointed NEVER deceived any of you. Thoswe that put THEMSELVES inbetween ALL and the Anointed have done this to you.

    You can't even figure out who did what to who, let alone when or how!?!?
    ROFLMFAO Deception breeds confusion,,,

  • gumby
    gumby

    The Anointed NEVER deceived any of you.
    Do you have a clue as to what is taught by your org. dipshit?
    The gb are part of the annointed that gives you your salmanilla food.
    The rest of the annointed are not allowed to give their say.
    Perhaps you could start a splinter group and have all the old annointed farts start writing the literature for those of you who wish to follow them.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hey Farkel: Good work and funny - continuing in your humor style. But, you said one thing that stabbed me ...

    "You know who I'm talking about: those "anointed" jerks who were jerks in life will rule over us as "king/priest" jerks after they've died. Can't get rid of them. Sigh."

    I was not a Jerk ... at least I don't think so ... of course, I never worked at the WTS HQ, never got to write anyting for them ... Didn't rule much, except for being an Elder ... I might have made a damn good King-Priest. But, I would likely have to contend with the GB Jerks who would have found a way to take over the 144,000 ... with one of their new 'heavenly' definitions.

    Then again, maybe because I am not a Jerk is why I could see through the BS, and leave the WTS ... and, end up here ... mmmmmm Amazing

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