Remarkably Blatant Antiscience Statements in This Week's WT Study

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  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr

    Is there still enough room for scientists in the WT?

    16. Do we hear valueless things being uttered today? Yes. for example, some scientists say that evolutionary theory and scientific discoveries in other fields demonstrate that there is no longer any need to believe in God, that everything can be explained by natural processes. Should such proud statements concern us? Of course notl Human wisdom differs from divine wisdom. (1 Cor. 2:6, 7) However, we know that when human teachings contradict what God has revealed, it is always the human teachings that are wrong. (Read Romans 3:4.) Despite the progress of science in some fields, the Bible's assessment of human wisdom remains true: "The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God." Compared with the infinite wisdom of God, human reasoning is futile.-l Cor. 3: 18-20.

    There's not even an attempt to refute what some some scientists say, no, all human teachings contrary to the WT are wrong, period. No study needed!

    Religious antiscience

    Main article: Relationship between religion and science

    A frequent basis of antiscientific views is literalist or fundamentalist theism. Here, scientific findings that conflict with what is considered divinely-inspired knowledge are regarded as flawed. Over the centuries such religious thinkers have opposed such ideas as heliocentrism and planetary motion. More recently, the religious theory of creationism, and its evolved form intelligent design, have been promoted by religious literalists to counter the scientific theory of evolution. [3]

    JWs once again trapped in circular reasoning. Befehl ist befehl!

  • fokyc
    fokyc

    JWs once again trapped in circular reasoning. Befehl ist befehl!

    How true! and for those like me who didn't quite understand:

    The 'Befehl ist Befehl' theory considers obedience to superior orders an automatic and complete defence against criminal prosecution.

    Jehovah will forgive them everything, just folks like us who are going to be destroyed!

    fokyc

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    What the Watchtower doesn't like about evolutionary science is that if true it takes away the method by which they interpret and understand Genesis and other books of the bible, mainly a very literal one. Those who believe that they have such a grasp on the secrets of the universe don't like to be told that they have to work within certain limits, especially when those limits come from the "world".

  • Awakened07
    Awakened07

    Fast forward to the 0:56 mark:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihYq2dGa29M

    -Sound familiar?

    Now fast forward to the 7:45 mark (same video).

    -Sound familiar?

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    However, we know that when human teachings contradict what God has revealed, it is always the human teachings that are wrong.

    Well, Christians in past centuries were taught that the earth was the center of the universe, according to the Bible. It was the "divine wisdom" of that age.

    Of course then along came those pesky scientists (astronomers in this case) who demonstrated beyond doubt that the earth revolved around the sun. The human teaching was right, and the thing supposedly revealed by God was dead wrong.

    Really the argument is about dogmatic religionists versus scientists, rather than "God's revelations versus human teachings". The Watchtower has set up a straw man argument here.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Which is one of the ingredients needed to start the Second Dark Ages. The others are absolute ownership of everyone and everything, and total control of all the legal systems.

    Guess which they are working on now?

  • Lady Zombie
    Lady Zombie
    16. Do we hear valueless things being uttered today? Yes. for example, some scientists say that evolutionary theory and scientific discoveries in other fields demonstrate that there is no longer any need to believe in God, that everything can be explained by natural processes. Should such proud statements concern us? Of course notl Human wisdom differs from divine wisdom. (1 Cor. 2:6, 7) However, we know that when human teachings contradict what God has revealed, it is always the human teachings that are wrong. (Read Romans 3:4.) Despite the progress of science in some fields, the Bible's assessment of human wisdom remains true: "The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God." Compared with the infinite wisdom of God, human reasoning is futile.-l Cor. 3: 18-20.

    Wow. Just wow.

    I love how religion argues with science. Religion requires blind faith from its followers. No proof, no evidence, no independent observation and verification, but demands acceptance of facts and events.

    For instance, dinosaurs and hominid fossils. If a god created everything (no evolution) and gave us a guide that religion says is our life's manual that contains everything we need to know, why leave those out? Did god create creatures such as the Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, and Neanderthals, then kill them off? Did god suddenly decide he didn't like the dinosaurs? The only thing we're told is that god created the heavens and the earth and the beginnings of humankind started with Adam. Did Satan plant all the hominid fossils in the earth to fool humans away from god? If so, why did god allow that? If god wants us to accept what is written in the bible, surely he would know that finding evidence of evolution would create a problem.

    This is where blind faith comes in. Religion denies scientific evidence that is staring us right in the face. "Human wisdom" had nothing to do with it. Physical evidence is not "human wisdom," it is physical evidence.

    I'm not just picking on the JWs but at this point in human development, religion needs to come up with some proof, or step down as a source of authority concerning life on this planet.

  • VM44
    VM44
    16. Do we hear valueless things being uttered today? Yes. for example, paragraph 16 of this Watchtower article is completely valueless!
  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    Could someone give me the magazine issue and page number for that quote please?

    Stunned Nic'

  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr
    Could someone give me the magazine issue and page number for that quote please?

    WT April 15, 2008, pg. 6, ยง16

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