ARTICLE: Making friends isnt so hard-its getting rid of them that's tough

by SnakesInTheTower 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    I have been searching high and low in my office looking for this Wall Street Article from 4.5 years ago (3/6/02). I found the paper copy in a stack of stuff today as I was cleaning, then was able to keyword search to find the article online....its below....

    I was wondering what you thought....especially as related to our collective JW past..... I'll chime in later after you with my thoughts...

    SnakesInTheTower (of the "hope none of you will use this on me " Sheep( Class)

    PS...the small box was not in the online version of the article but was in the print version:

    Breaking It Off

    The Fade Out: Keep saying you're too busy, limit contact, eventually drop them.

    The Friendship Façade: Answer e-mails now and then; friend thinks relationship is still on, even if it isn't

    The Frank Conversation: Just tell them the truth. If all goes well, you can make a clean break.

    Making Friends Is Easy.
    Getting Rid of Them Isn't



    By Jeffrey Zaslow

    Justin Simons returned from vacation to find his furniture had been rearranged by an "unnaturally intrusive" friend. Rosemary Blieszner got fed up with a pal who saw life as a constant bummer. Peter Goldschmidt had a prankster friend who went to televised wrestling matches and held up signs for the cameras: "P. Goldschmidt = Loser."

    As the song says, "You've got a friend." But very often, that's the problem: You've got a friend, and you can't get rid of him.

    Awhile back, The Wall Street Journal explored how the frantic focus on work and family was leaving Americans with less time for friendships. But it's worse than that: We struggle to hold on to our closest friends, feeling lucky if we get time for a quick lunch with them or a rushed phone conversation. Yet one reason we have so few moments for these people is that we can't seem to disentangle ourselves from friendships we no longer want.

    Research now shows that many people lack the tools for the uncomfortable process of abruptly ending a friendship; studies show only 15% of people say they have been able to do that. They're stymied by gender (women have a harder time with ailing relationships), high education (they may overanalyze issues) or wimpiness (they loathe confrontation). On top of that, tools of the modern age such as e-mail make it even harder to separate from other people.

    In some respects, it's easier to end friendships these days. We keep changing jobs, homes and spouses, leaving behind crowds of former co-workers, neighbors and ex-spouses' friends. Most of these people fall naturally out of our lives. But as we amass all of these friends, casual and close, past and present, there's more risk that one will cling to our phone number or e-mail address.

    A needy or noodgey person might keep you on his online buddy list. Every time you log on, he'll know it and can send you friendly but cringe-inducing instant messages. He can also track your life and career moves by "Googling" you.

    So how do you ditch a problematic friend? Mr. Simons, a theater director in Columbus, Ohio, cut loose his well-meaning but parasitic pal by being brutally direct. "I told him, 'You can't call me. You can't see me.' I had to set a boundary that was final."

    Ms. Blieszner, a Virginia Tech professor, employed what researchers call "the fade out." She limited contact with her glum friend. "I drifted away, and it worked," she says.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Goldschmidt, an executive for Saks Fifth Avenue, dealt with his friend much more seriously. In 2000, after the friend held up a sign that said "P. Goldschmidt Steals from Saks," Mr. Goldschmidt filed a $10 million libel lawsuit, which remains in litigation.

    If possible, winding down a friendship by feigning a busy calendar is preferable to a dramatic confrontation, says sociologist Jan Yager. (It lessens the likelihood of a vendetta.) If the person doesn't get the message, step up the frankness of your hints.

    Ms. Yager, author of "When Friendship Hurts," warns against sending a kiss-off e-mail. Your ex-friend might forward it to friends, co-workers, strangers.

    Some types of people seem better at dumping friends than others. Ms. Blieszner, a gerontology professor, conducts friendship research with Rebecca G. Adams, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. They've found that women are more apt to obsess about troubles with friends. "Men place less emphasis on friendship, and so friends are easier for them to discard," says Ms. Adams.

    There are generational factors, too. Baby boomers married later, so friendships are often more crucial to them. Studies show that older people have lower expectations, and are apt to endure peer problems silently. But younger generations often talk through issues incessantly, which can leave them entangled with people who should be ex-friends.

    Meanwhile, workplace friendships can be the messiest, because a jealous or angry former friend can sabotage your career. Many people remain "friends" with back-stabbing co-workers because they fear the alternative. Others see no remedy short of quitting. Researchers say workplace friendships should be entered into cautiously.

    Outside the workplace, we often remain in contact with "friends" out of a sense of obligation. Our parents were friends. Or our kids play together. Or, in the case of Simon and Garfunkel, the outside world seems to insist. At the Grammy Awards, the estranged partners harmonized -- "Hello darkness my old friend..." -- with little eye contact. Despite their uncomfortable body language, they stood together, bound by others' expectations.

    If you're the one being dumped, try to recognize that this may be for the best, especially if your lives have diverged. Wendy Wolfson, 42, of Somerville, Mass., is single. A few friends have dropped her. "They get married, move to the suburbs, have kids, and I never hear from them again."

    But she doesn't let their disappearance rattle her. "I know they secretly love me," she says. The most gracious former friends wish each other well and move on.

    Email your comments to [email protected].

    (c) Wall Street Journal http://www.careerjournal.com/columnists/movingon/20030307-movingon.html

  • maxwell
    maxwell

    I personally find it to be opposite. It's hard to make friends and really easy to get rid of them. You just stop calling people and they don't call me. Friendship ended. Seems to be one of the tactics mentioned in the article. Although personally, I prefer the direct approach for friendships or any relationship. If you no longer want to hang out with someone, just go tell them face to face. Why play fading games? But I have accepted that the games are normal part of out culture.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Hello Snakes. Mrs. Flipper had a female friend before we met who was absolutely parasitical, needed to talk constantly. At the beginning of the friendship it wasn't like that. When Mrs. Flipper told her that she was getting worn out, exhausted from constant phone calls, because of Mrs. Flipper's not wanting added stress in her life, because she tended to depression sometimes, the lady just blew it off and said, " I'm the one with the problems here. " Mrs. Flipper's psychologist friend said this woman was a self centered person who just uses friends to be her mommy. Mrs. Flipper had to call and tell the lady to not call anymore and to leave her alone. It was difficult for Mrs. Flipper to do, but the relief was instant. Mrs. Flippers mood got better immediately. Apparently this woman had latched onto other people this way before.

    As for myself, Mr. Flipper, every once in awhile I've had people that tried to get close as buddies, more when I was younger and had more time, not working as much, people who would be, ( I call them leeches ), who suck your time and energy thinking that the world revolves only around them and their problems. I had an ex-father in law who would expect me to drop whatever I was doing at the time to help him pull an engine from a car or take care of his crisis of the moment , like I had nothing else going on in the world. I would usually just say, I'm busy with work or whatever. Then on the other side of this coin you are talking about Snakes is how people and former friends tend to dissappear and leave when you go through a divorce. That is a subject all unto itself sometime. You really find out who your real friends are because everybody assumes they have a handle or accurate take on your life, when in actuality, they know absolutely nothing about your personal experience. Great thread Snakes, hope you are well ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    It isn't easy but it can be a wonderful way to improve your life. I realized once that most of my friends were crazy - because of my own childhood I seem to have a high tolerance for chaos, but I got tired of it eventually. I told a couple of them to just not call me anymore. Others I quit calling, quit responding to their calls, eventually the relationship faded. Result - even though I don't like confrontation, my life is more peaceful now. It was worth the confrontations - and now I check out just how crazy people are before I get involved with them.

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Funny you should post this, snakes. I'm probably going to be leaving my job shortly, and I have two friends there. I was just wondering today IF I was going to maintain the friendships. I find it harder to make friends than get rid of them. As far as getting rid of the problematic ones....

    I chose the direct approach with one friend, who was a former bf, just telling him that we didn't have anything in common any longer and that I was too busy. I felt it was necessary to be direct because he held hope that he and I would get back together-which was NEVER going to happen. It was a tough conversation to have.

    I usually use the fading approach for people who demand a lot of my time and energy over long periods of time, without offering support in return. I know people go through tough times and can make a mistake, but when the relationship becomes very one-sided, then I have to take a second look at it. One friend was an energy vampire and negative. The other was self-centered- 90% of the conversation was about her. I haven't had any treacherous, backstabbing friends as an adult, but would have no qualms about dropping one like that either.

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    serendipity:

    when the relationship becomes very one-sided, then I have to take a second look at it. One friend was an energy vampire and negative

    When I was still an active JW (now irreg, soon to be inactive), it seemed I was the one calling to check on these energy leeches, but when it was Snakes that needed the help, they seem to all of a sudden....POOF...disappear.....

    even now, I get phone calls from the energy leeches (all current JWs)...since all calls forward to my cell, their name pops up from my directory so I am warned and I just hit the "Ignore" button and let it go to voice mail....in fact the only reason I keep their number in my directory is so their name will pop up!....

    I am loyal to my friends, even my so called friends that are dubs...if I can help I will...and if they ever leave that cult, I will be there for them...but I have decided I need more positive energy in my life ....so I have to leave the "energy leeches" alone (I love that term, thanks for that..so appropos)

    Snakes ()

    ps...(and thanks to another poster on the board for helping me realize the need for positive energy and not wasting my time on so much negativity and bitterness toward the borg........i appreciate that so much)

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Sankes:

    I agree somewhat. What is hard is hurting somebody's feelings. It is the confrontation that is bad hence all the sneakiness and unanswered e-mails, etc. There is somebody whose e-mails I intend to ignore from this point forward. I realize this person is only keeping contact because they feel it is advantageous for some reason. But, I am not fooled and see through the sham.

    Flipper:

    I know what you mean about friendships that suck the life out of you and you have to do something drastic to disentangle yourself. I remember changing my phone number years ago because of a couple that weren't the best thing for me. I felt bad but realized I had to do this. There were hard feelings but I am glad I wasn't around for the fallout. Sometimes though people are troubled and if we like them we put up with their 'moods' because what happens if we find ourselves in the same situation? Wouldn't we want a sympathetic ear? I also realize I have to be a friend in order to have friends. So, you have to look at the whole picture. If the bad outweighs the good, then they have to go.

    LHG

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