Please help ASAP....UN question reguarding the ESCSOC

by middleman 7 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • middleman
    middleman

    Hey yall I have a question that I'm quite curious of. It says in the 2005 UN Accreditation Form "In 2002 we instituted the review process for NGOs associated with DPI". Now on the UN website it says "Resolution E/1996/31 adopted in July 1996 to replace Resolution 1296 of May 1968 rules the current arrangements for consultation with non-governmental organizations." How does this relate to the WBTS when they were associated with the DPI? It's my understanding that they were under the 1296-7 Resolution that was chanced in 1996, but I've been told that they were never under the ECOSOC, so what resolution did they claim to be under? I know it's a word play on the WBTS side but I want to make sure I know how to explain this to the dubs I've been talking to. If the 2005 handbook says "we institued the review process for NGO's associated with the DPI in 2002" what did that entail? Aren't all NGO's that are with the DPI STILL under the ECOSOC even though some don't have consultation status? I hope I make sense here. Thank-you so much for your help.

    Blessings.......

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Middleman,

    ECOSOC was the first UN Section that ever allowed Non-Governmental Organizations to have any sort of Associate membership status to it. In the resolution that allowed ECOSOC to permit NGOs to become Associate members of taht section, general quidelines were set forth that would apply, as a minimum requirement, to all sections that later premitted NGOs (like the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society or the United Health Organization) to become Associate members.

    Unlike ECOSOC, the Department of Public Information (DPI) section reports directly to the General Secretary of the UN. Its criteria has, as its minimum, the criteria required for all sections. It also established criteria peculiar to the interests and aims of the DPI section, especially related to the applicant organization's demonstrated ability and willingness to communicate to a broad audience about the activities, objectives, and progams of the United Nations.

    I hope that proves helpful to you.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • middleman
    middleman

    AuldSoul, Thank-you for your quick response. Let me make sure I read this right. When you said "In the resolution that allowed ECOSOC to permit NGOs to become Associate members of that section, general guidelines were set forth that would apply, as a minimum requirement, to all sections that later permitted NGOs", were those "guidelines" the 1296-7 Resolution? What was "the review process for NGO's associated with the DPI in 2002" according to the 2005 Accreditation form/handbook? Sorry I'm not trying to be thick I just want to know what I know on this. Blessings.......

  • bobld
    bobld

    Does it matter?If wbts registered with Un in any capacity to promote even a single letter of the UN are they not promoting Satan's ways?You know Satan transformed himself into an angle of light.So in a sense Satan promotes good things.

    B

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    The "review process" refers to a process of Committee review to determine whether the Associate member organizations are fulfilling their end of the membership agreements. Prior to this formal review process it was relatively easy to retain Associate status once that status was gained, so long as filing was timely of requested materials demonstrating active publishing and distribution of information regarding the UN, its activities, and objectives.

    The application process, itself, was none too easy in 1991, however. They applied in late November of 1991 and were not approved as an Associate member of the UN/DPI until February of 1992. They retained this membership to the UN/DPI until October of 2001.

    Concerning those who renounced their Christian faith in his day, the apostle John wrote: "They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us." (1 John 2:19) For example, a person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of a secular organization that has objectives contrary to the Bible and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. (Isa. 2:4; Rev. 19:17-21) If a person who is a Christian chooses to join those who are disapproved by God, a brief announcement is made to the congregation, stating: "[Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses." Such a person is treated in the same way as a disfellowshipped person. The presiding overseer should approve this announcement. (Organized to Do Jehovah's Will, p. 155, par. 2)

    So, really, this only leaves two questions:

    (1) Is the UN/DPI a secular (i.e., non-religious) organization?

    (2) According to Jehovah's Witnesses, is the UN/DPI under judgment by Jehovah God?

    In my opinion, the reasons why they applied to join the UN/DPI and then maintained that Associate membership for ten years are unimportant. The fact is that they chose to join those they themselves labeled "disapproved by God" and, in doing so, they held themselves to a different standard than they hold those they presume to teach.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

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  • nomoreguilt
    nomoreguilt

    Another fantastic, informative thread!!!! I am printing this at this very moment, thank you one and all!!

    NMG

  • erandir
    erandir

    If the UN is the beast, according to the Watchtower's interpretation of Revelations, then why join up with it in any way, shape, or form, for whatever benefit? As I understand it according to what I was taught while still an active witness, that is the same as receiving the mark of the beast. This was the catalyst in my fading from the WTBTS. They are hypocrits, and it isn't just at a local congregational level. It is systemic.

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