is there EVER a justification for killing children?

zen nudist

Numbers 31:17,18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Duet. 21:20-21 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son [is] stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; [he is] a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Moses Orders the MURDER of defenseless non-combatants AFTER a battle is over... the excuse, the people showed themselves morally weak in a previous encounter with pagan people.

Then Moses orders the Murder of any child a parent could not brainwash, I mean train up, in the ways of Jehovah.

both of these are part of the PERFECT law according to Paul...

So many will find excuses to justify murdering children to maintain their faith...but is it really possible that a true religion can be built upon such a foundation as this??

If you can justify the murder of children, what is beyond your ability to justify?

Elsewhere

Killing the masses is the most effective way to get rid of opposing ideas.

sens

Ive stopped looking for points atm...my head is spinning as it is...I dont think I could read another thing...let alone try and take it in...

joannadandy

God wasn't exactly a children's rights advocate. The first thing a child reading the Bible notices is that you're supposed to honnor your mother and father but they're not necessarily required to reciprocate. This was a god who told Abraham to knife his boy Isaac and then at the last minute, when the dagger's poised above Isaac's heart, God tells Abraham that He's just kidding. This was a god who let a child lose his birthright because of some screwball mix-up involving fake fur hands and a bowl of soup. This was a god who saw to it that his own son had his hands and feet nailed onto pieces of wood. -Sarah Vowell

This woman is right on.

The basic justification for EVERYTHING in religion is, God knows best. Which translates into--I am speaking for God, therefore it's all good--go ahead and kill the children.

I am all about the minor details in the Bible, which frankly if you add them all up comes out to, for me, WHAT A CROCK! WHO BELIEVES THIS STUFF?

No there is never justification as far as I can think at this moment -- the god of the old testament was sure blood thirsty -- no wonder we needed Jesus to come and put things straight -- that is by the way to drift off thread for a moment -- why the Trinity is such a sick doctrine -- Jesus and God can not be the same

zen nudist

You said Jesus cannot be the God of the OT.... they are not that different....really.

Jesus said-- those who did not want me as king, bring them before me and slaughter them [luke 19:27]

and He who does not HATE his mother and father and sister and brothers and even his own soul cannot be my disciple

[luke 14:26]... like father like son (^_^)

morty

This whole thing confuses me.....really

morty

rocketman

If such child-killing would happen today, imagine the shock, the outcry over it. And most if not all religions would also join in to express outrage. And yet, as zen points out, there they are - two scriptures that show that killing children is justified in God's sight.

No wonder I was never able to "draw close" to this God.

is there EVER a justification for killing children?

zen nudist

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