Comments That You Will Not Hear at the WTS 9-22-02

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  • blondie
    blondie

    WT Study for the Week of September 16 to 22, 2002

    STIRRED BY "THE MAGNIFICENT THINGS OF GOD"Acts 2:11

    Snippets of scriptures abound in this weeks lesson starting with the theme scripture. It is interesting what the WTS thinks are "the magnificent things of God." Acts chapter 2 records the events concerning the founding of the Christian congregation, the giving of holy spirit to those gathered with the outward sign of speaking in tongues. Peter talked about Jesus being murdered and resurrected, appearing thereafter to his disciples, ascending to heaven.

    Then the disciples receive "the free gift of the holy spirit" (does that mean the great crowd dont receive holy spirit? Asking elders this question will get a wide range of answers)

    How then does the WTS twist, I mean use, this occasion to beat us over the head, I mean encourage us? "How can this account help us to evaluate our own (with help from the elders and many others in the congregation) service to Jehovah?"

    MOVED TO ACTION!

    (and the beating starts already)

    "The disciples. . . lost no time in sharing the good news of salvation with others."

    Joel 1:1; 2:28,29,31; Acts 2:17,18,20

    "your sons and daughters will certainly prophesy"

    The WTS has on many occasions referred to the GB/Anointed/FDS as prophets. But on this occasion they try to put in a little damage control. "Does this mean that God was going to raise up a whole generation of prophets, both male and female, in the manner of David, Joel and Deborah and use them to foretell future events? No. . . would prophesy in the sense that they would be impelled by Jehovahs spirit to declare the magnificent things that Jehovah and done and will still do. So they would serve as spokesman for the Most High." Hmmmmmm, so when they said they were prophets they werent really prophets.

    Acts 2:41 says about 3,000 souls were added. The WTS uses this scripture to prove that the early Christians kept records. Well, they obviously werent as anal-retentive as the WTS who would have recorded 3,024 souls. The early Christians on most occasions only recorded the number of men baptized. If the WTS did that, their statistics would plummet. Did you know that attendants count everyone now even little babies and people sleeping? If sleeping babies can be counted as intelligent enough to understand the public talk, why cant they get baptized?

    Buzzword alert. "No doubt this increase was, at least in part, due to their zealous efforts." Another bashing to do more.

    THE WORD OF GOD EXERTS POWER

    "those who are desirous of becoming servants of God. . . need to study Gods Word carefully." (In the first place, no one at the WTS encourages Bible study, it is book study and magazine study, perhaps brochure study, but not BIBLE study. And it has to be carefully because of all that confusing apostate stuff on the net.)

    (And what are the magnificent things of God?) "They also come to appreciate Gods purpose to have "a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." (Again this is only another way to show that JWs are motivated by their own desire for everlasting life, not the vindication of Gods sovereignty.)

    "Precious truths" is one phrase that makes my stomach turn. (Precious to whom and whose truths?)

    For those of you who wonder about the millions that attend the Memorial, the WTS puts this spin on it, "millions are not yet actively serving Jehovah (arent these mostly inactive, DAd, and DFd ones). . . these interested ones (interested or blackmailed) will soon be moved to reach out for the privilege (I hate this word, excuse me while I vomit. . . thanks for waiting, I feel better now) of being publishers of the good news (once again most of these ones are already baptized but missing in action according to the WTS).

    "The knowledge that Gods servants acquire from their book. . .oops, Bible study is not superficial (it is nonexistent).

    Now for those who read the threads on JWD about Camille, the "worldly" caregiver of sister Martha Alzheimer, please re-read. I am sick enough as it is. I have these few comments. Where was sister Marthas family? Where were the elders who would be weekly visiting her and could have had another sister assist her in the study or take it over? This is one of the worst experiences I have read in a WTS publication. Dont miss the point about sister Martha giving Camille the proper clothes to wear to the meetings. I bet you didnt know that Jesus said his disciples would be known by the clothing they wore.

    STIRRED TO REFLECT JEHOVAHS STANDARDS

    "There are more than six million Witnesses of Jehovah. . . appreciate they are privileged (another word I hate) to bear Jehovahs name (and privileged to besmirch God by allowing child molesters safe haven). . . applying his standards (WTS rules) in every aspect of their lives (except as child molesters)." (And what is paramount?) Gods standards (the elder bodys standards) in dress and grooming (yes, the most important way we tell out the magnificent things of God is through our dress and grooming. . . watch those thongs and bra straps sisters).

    The WTS warns "not to be sloppy, untidy, or unkempt" and provides the experience of witnesses in a South American country who walk for miles to the convention and fall into the river and snag garments on a bush. Then they repair their clothing before attending the convention. What gives here? Are you telling me these people only own one set of clothing and it is their meeting clothes? Gimme a break. Why not wear their one set of casual clothes and carry the good ones? So watch those broken zippers, snags and dirt at the conventions.

    They also warn "should not be showing, bizarre, provocative, revealing or faddish." "It is not simply a matter of dressing appropriate when attending congregation meetings. . . we are Christians and ministers 24 hours a day. . . we will never feel obligated to hold back from witnessing informally because of embarrassment over our appearance (yes, that is why I hold back from witnessing informally, because of how I am dressed. It cant be because I am afraid to invite anyone to come to the KH and expose themselves and their children to concealed child molesters; or that too many are backstabbing liars.)

    DO NOT BE LOVING THE WORLD

    Yes, "peer pressure" must not be allowed to dictate our dress, unless it is the COs, DOs, elders, elderettes doing the dictating. Remember when the business world was held up as a model? "Even the dress code of business and professional people does not provide a reliable standard of what is appropriate for Christians." Of course, Jesus is our standard and he had long hair, a beard, and wore a dress. . . er, a robe as well as sandals. If Jesus came to the KH today, he would be viewed with suspicion and no elder body would be asking him to give the public talk.

    Questions to ask yourself per the WTS: "Why does this style appeal to me? Is it identified with some well-known entertainersomeone I admire (Jlo perhaps?) Has it been adopted by members of a street gang or a group that promotes an independent, rebellious spirit (we know that you can tell an apostate by their dress)? (Dont you wonder how 200 men locked up at Bethel who put together the WT study articles know what a street gang wears?). . .If it is a dress or a skirt, what about the length (below the knee unwritten WTS rule)?. . . tight-fitting, provocative or sloppy (the WTS will soon be issuing Islamic style womans clothing at cost to all sisters who want to stay in good standing, unless you are young and have good bbs)."

    "Family heads (and if they dont the elders, their wives, the COs, DOs, and the regular pioneers will tell you) . . . to offer firm, loving counsel."

    "Our dress and grooming and reflect either well or badly on our heavenly Father." (allowing child molesters to remain in the congregation doesnt reflect badly? Any child molesters lurking out there, be sure not to let your dress and grooming fall below the standards or its out the door for you.)

    "How privileged (thank God its almost the end) we are to have learned the truth. . .we do not fear death (because millions now living will never die). . . Jehovah has been gracious in revealing all these things to us (only through the GB/FDS though)."

    PICTURES TODAY

    Page 18

    A Hispanic mother with a frown on her face and a bun views her excited teenage daughter with a miniskirt. Obviously, this young sister has not been paying attention at the family study. That skirt must be all of 10 inches long, would hardly cover her thong. Mom points out a sacklike top as an alternative.

    The young sister should look at page 17 where the sisters have skirts below or well below the knee. No cleavage to be seen and no stiltlike high heels.

    For once the picture of a gathering on page 17 has sisters in slacks. Unfortunately, I dont see any chaperones at the gathering. What is the WTS thinking?!

    (Edited by Blondie--sorry for the stuttering, I didn't realized I had pasted this twice. I am sicker than I thought)

    Edited by - Blondie on 22 September 2002 16:6:46

  • els
    els

    Aren't pantie lines sloppy, untidy or unkempt? A nice thong would prevent that. els

  • blondie
    blondie

    You're right, els. I'm just joshing a little. Actually, no underwear might be better. I have noticed that with these low rise jeans girls wear, it seems that I see thongs peeking out (I think it's on purpose). I wouldn't wear low-rise jeans with a thong at a congregation picnic. I wish I looked that good!

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    blondie; very good break down on wt articles. i have done the same in the past while witnessing to jw,s ...and loved to make them stumble...if you would be so good please look up on the back page or next to back page...in a wt or awake in 2000 or 2001 were it says that millions now living today will never die. i have many fights with jw,s on this ..saying that if a child was born today and lived to 100 years old that the world end in his life time.etc i lost my copy i would love to know which mag it was in . as my jw friends have now forgot the arguments we had and will not look it up. thanx john [email protected]

  • blondie
    blondie

    johnny, that phrase is from a talk that started being preached by J.F. Rutherford in 1920 and was also in a booklet by the same title. Here a few quotes fairly recent to show that teaching is still taught by the WTS even after the term "generation" was redefined in 1994-1995. I don't have access to my bound volumes from 2000, 2001, and loose copies from 2002.

    *** w97 1/1 11 Let All Glorify Jehovah! ***
    In the early 1920s, a featured public talk presented by Jehovahs Witnesses was entitled "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." This may have reflected overoptimism at that time. But today that statement can be made with full confidence. Both the increasing light on Bible prophecy and the anarchy of this dying world cry out that the end of Satans system is very, very near! The Memorial report for 1996 shows that 12,921,933 attended, of whom only 8,757 (.068 percent) indicated their heavenly hope by partaking of the emblems.
  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    thanks thanks thanks blondie for the review; as i sat through that piece of bovine excrement, i could not help wondering what gems you would have for us. I succumbed to commenting on the pictures to my fourteen year old son, we giggled through the study again this sunday.

    that was easy compared to the concludingtalk by the CO: reminded again that CHILDREN WILL NOT BE SAVED BY THE EFFORTS OF FAITHFUL PARENTS. I thought we would get by without being reminded of the gruesome death facing young children not publishing or baptized, oh well.

    keep up the good work blondie..............YOU ROCK

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    Pistoff said:

    that was easy compared to the concludingtalk by the CO: reminded again that CHILDREN WILL NOT BE SAVED BY THE EFFORTS OF FAITHFUL PARENTS. I thought we would get by without being reminded of the gruesome death facing young children not publishing or baptized, oh well.

    I heard this Talk a while back.

    IT IS VERY CONTRADICTORY!

    This is the reason why:

    The Watchtower Society teaches that if a Child's Parents get Disfellowshipped, Jehovah will destroy the CHILDREN at Armageddon along with the Parents!

    But now, if the Parents are Faithful Witnesses, Jehovah will STILL DESTROY THE CHILDREN at Armageddon if they don't get enough hours in the Field Service!

    Amazing how they say this is ALL BIBLICAL(TM) TEACHINGS!

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    thanx

    thanx blondie;;that will work ,that is a prophecy i know they printed the same line in 2000or 2001 .wow you had to see me make many jw,s stumble on this on .....you can really twist them with this one line. if you know what i mean....i have them contridicting them selves with every other word....it,s so comicial that it's sad. thanx again john....

  • blondie
    blondie

    johnny, most JWs do not think. If they do, they are careful only to think what they are told to think. I have been attending for many years, and it is just starting to sink in that it is worldwide not just in my little congregation. I am working my way out as silently as possible.

    I always wondered why intelligent people stayed in abusive situations.

    There is this famous experiment with frogs where if you take a frog and place it in a pan with water sitting on a stove, and then heat the water slowly until it boils, the frogs will eventually die in the boiling water having never jumped out of the pan. However if you take a frog and place it in that same pan containing already very hot water, the frog will jump out immediately and save itself from being boiled to death.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    thanx again BLONDIE;;it is true the wt starts you off with a little poison at a time ..like a drug dealer . until after a while you are a full blown junkie!!!i i had a other question noone can seem to answer ...i,m trying to find out which countrys the wt mags. are still sold for a price....i here it is still sold in peru....it seems many don't have contacts in many third world countrys... to see if this is still true any way i'm happy to here you are finally seeing the light if i can help in any way mail [email protected] john

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