WT Believes Demons Can Repent and Join God's Org.?

by cameo-d 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  cameo-d

  In 1878 J. G. Smith published a novel titled Seola. In 1924 it was revised by a Bible Student (JW) and published under the title Angels and Women. It was recommended by the Watchtower Society in two Golden Age magazines.

  According to the Watchtower's view of how the book was written, Angels and Women is an automatic writing book. The Foreword states that the woman who wrote it was "impelled to write it after listening to beautiful music." [1] It also said that the spirit that "dictated" the novel to Mrs. Smith was one of the fallen angels who desired to return to God's organization. [2]

  Why then did the Society endorse this book since they have condemned reading books "dictated" to authors by fallen angels or demons as being spiritism? The Society at the time believed that some demons or fallen angels were honest and could be saved and return to God's organization.Angels and Women, they believed, was channeled or "dictated" to the author by one such fallen angel who was honest and told the truth about pre-flood conditions on earth. They endorsed the book and said it shed some "light" on the subject since it came from an 'honest' fallen angel who was there at the time. They therefore claimed to receive new "light" from a demon according to their own statements.

  This is a clear example to me of Rutherford and the Society believing in and endorsing the views of "honest" demons and also a direct involvement with the occult and spiritism which they would call "deviltry" or "demonism." Today we would call this channeling.

  By playing with this sort of spiritism, and endorsing messages from fallen angels, does this mean that WT has been consorting with demons?

  Is this why WT is under such demonic influence today?

  Do they still get their new light from these "light-bearing" demons?

  Do you think WT has "saved" and reformed some of these 'honest' fallen angels and given them leadership positions?
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  WTWizard

  I think I would rather take my chances directly with those demons instead of Jehovah Baghead or the Washtowel Slaveholdery. Either are too damn unyielding and ready to make things miserable at the slightest excuse. At least the demons aren't like that.
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  BluesBrother

  http://www.seanet.com/~raines/review.html

  "C uriouser and curiouser!” ???, to quote Lewis Carroll
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  cameo-d

  I think I would rather take my chances directly with those demons instead of Jehovah Baghead or the Washtowel Slaveholdery. Either are too damn unyielding and ready to make things miserable at the slightest excuse. At least the demons aren't like that.

  Wizard, from what I have seen of the attributes of Jehovah-jihad, I think he is a chief demon. He is a warmongering, blood thirsty "kill me some sacrifices and sling the blood on the altar" kind of mean troll. He is always available to dish out punishment but never to comfort or help. Just because people call him 'god' doesn't mean he is good. I think jehovah is a Major Demon. I don't think we know our creators.
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  Jeremy C

  The self-serving and self-aggrandizing Watchtower organization doesn’t need to channel demons in order to delude themselves and their members. All they need is the book of Revelation.

  Any group that utilizes an apocalyptic fable filled with bloodshed, beasts, numbers, and spirits, as a foundation for their belief structure is going to run in circles. Such apocalyptic movements always chase their own tails, try to run from their own shadows, and see the devil hiding around every corner. Their attempts to understand such fantastical Biblical ramblings place them in a "fun house" of mirrors and mazes that keep them in a state of mania.

  The more they try to make sense of Revelation, the more predictions they make. The more predictions they make, the more they fail. The more they fail, the more they re-double their efforts to make sense of Revelation. The cycle continues without any end in sight.

  This is why I believe the book of Revelation is the most elaborate and insidious practical joke ever unleashed upon mankind.
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  cameo-d

  I was just wondering why, instead of arguing trivial doctrine like the 607 (or whatever it is) with your family that is still in....why do ex JW not bring up some of these issues like WT conspiring with "honest" demons.

  If WT ever promoted this train of thought and have not recanted, it would seem to me a bigger more contemporary issue and of much more importance than 607 and the other tedious distractions of their dogma.

  I would think this sort of info could pull some people out of there.
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  Atlantis

  1934 "Angels" p.43 "What Jehovah has in store for these "sons of God" who became disobedient, the Scriptures do not reveal, but if at Armageddon any of them do take a positive and unequivocal stand on the side of Jehovah and gladly leave it to Jehovah where to place them, they may be recovered and return to some place in his organization."
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  cameo-d

  Thanks for that revealing piece of evidence, Atlantis!

  It seems the WT is going waaaay beyond what is written. Don't you all think so?

  If this were brought out to JWs today, could it make a difference in how they view the org?

  Shouldn't some of this be brought out to the light and dusted off again?
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  dogisgod

  In my training in the borg the "angels" that fell away could never be redeemed because they were "perfect" and did not make a mistake but a "decision" that could not be undone.
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  cameo-d

  In my training in the borg the "angels" that fell away could never be redeemed because they were "perfect" and did not make a mistake but a "decision" that could not be undone.

  Dogis god...how could "your training" be so different from what Atlantis presented above which was published by the Society?

  I thought JWs worldwide were all supposed to be mindlinked on the same page.

  How could this conception differ from cong to cong?