Posts by carla
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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide
by SnakesInTheTower inmy middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
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carla
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I Agree With the Circuit Overseer!!
by The Searcher inwhen i was just studying, the c.o.
was brought to my home for a "visit".. the only thing i can remember from his conversation is this - (and the principle is so true, i'm going to use it).
"searcher, if you're talking to someone about the bible and they don't accept three scriptures as proof about the subject, then don't waste your time trying to give them thirty scriptures, because they clearly don't want to hear the truth.".
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carla
How different Christians feel than jw's about trying to convert somebody. I know a Christian friend who was trying to convert a friend from eastern traditions to Christianity, how did this work? they kept at it for years and years, they became great friends. The Christian friend was at his friends bedside when he died. He never gave up trying to tell him about Jesus, not his religion, just Jesus. They had many great conversations and learned much from each other.
Imagine what a loss it would have been if he had the 3 scripture rule?
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If they're just going to emulate Jimmy Swaggart and the like (e.g.: JW Broadcasting), why do they need such a massive compound in Warwick?
by Calebs Airplane inthey're obviously getting rid of the rags, drastically reducing printing of books in general, eliminating special pioneers, etc., etc.. ... what could they possibly need a 1.6 million square feet compound for (not including outside space) in the middle of nowhere?.
just to put things into perspective, 1.6 million square feet is equal to the square footage of roughly twelve (12) costco warehouse clubs.
wtf?
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carla
jw's like to do things differently as you know, they are working backwards. Most televangelist work their way up, gaining followers and taking the money, often for extravagant lifestyles. The wt on the otherhand is hedging its bets and taking the money from the members who will be leaving them at some point so they will have their extravagant building anyway. Might be nearly empty but the gb will sit in their delusional tower running things,browbeating the diehards while they wait for the big A. -
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Why do most Christians churches have masonic and/or pagan symbols?
by kabwell inhas anyone looked at the local churches in their area and seen pagan and freemason symbols both inside and outside.
i am not a jw but at least they don't seem to follow this trend.
why do "christians" wear a symbol of torture and death ?
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carla
Oh, you know what my jw would say about you? you are a jw at heart and truly believe but you just don't want to submit and be loyal to jah, you don't have enough discipline and you just don't want to give up your sinful lifestyle (pick any "sin" here).
I'm not saying that, just saying what a typical jw might say.
But welcome to the forum and stick around, there are many interesting folks here.
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Why do most Christians churches have masonic and/or pagan symbols?
by kabwell inhas anyone looked at the local churches in their area and seen pagan and freemason symbols both inside and outside.
i am not a jw but at least they don't seem to follow this trend.
why do "christians" wear a symbol of torture and death ?
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carla
oh sorry, somebody already beat me to the post! took me awhile due to it being Sat and that means someone was getting ready for fs and I don't leave this site up while they do that. -
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Why do most Christians churches have masonic and/or pagan symbols?
by kabwell inhas anyone looked at the local churches in their area and seen pagan and freemason symbols both inside and outside.
i am not a jw but at least they don't seem to follow this trend.
why do "christians" wear a symbol of torture and death ?
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carla
Welcome to the forum!
Most jw's do have issue with a cross- here is a portion from a previous post from a poster named Saved_JW. You can find the post here- http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5066993388486656/discussion-pioneer
(You say you are not a jw but your language suggests otherwise, just my opinion, my apologies if that is not correct. Perhaps you have been one in the past?)
From the post about the cross-
"We then went into the subject of the Cross. David raised the objection that the biggest issue he had with Christians is that they "Worship the cross"
This is when I chimed in. I said "David, whenever you have faith involved, there are always symbols representing the object of faith. Take for example the Watchtower. You have a "Symbol" of a Watchtower on that magazine, would it be unfair for me to say that you Worship a watchtower simply because of the symbol?"
...."Well...we don't worship a Watchtower!"
.."I agree, I suspect that this Watchtower Symbol is used to represent keeping on the Watch for Gods Kingdom, in the same way the Cross is for Christians. Its symbolic of Christ Death, burial and resurrection, conquering death and giving salvation to all who believe. Notice that Jesus isn't on the cross, he is absent from it. This is symbolic of his victory over death. So its not the cross we worship at all. Its a symbol of our salvation. Now this is not to say some Christians make a talisman out of an object, to this I would agree that it would be wrong to make this symbol into something its not. But its quite another thing to broad brush every Christian who has a cross as somebody who worships it."
..." Well its still an issue because this was a death instrument, would you wear a symbol of a gun if your best friend was murdered by one?"
.." Ok, the only issue is Christians don't see the cross as a torture device primarily, its a symbol of Atonement, the very place where your sins were paid for. So its a symbol of victory and salvation. Its not murder since Jesus voluntarily went to the cross"-end of quote from post.
By the way, do you or would you wear a wedding ring? did your bride or if you ever get married would you allow the bride to wear a veil? a wedding dress? would you go on a honeymoon? Do you have issue with the days of the week? they are pagan as well, look up how they came to be. Same with the months,those are just a sampling of pagan things. Pagan symbols are all around us on a daily basis that doesn't mean they hold any meaning for people today. Nor should they be thought of as having magical powers or as a tailsman.
I wear a cross but I do not 'worship' a cross, maybe you can tell us what you consider 'worship'? I do not know any Christians who 'worships' a cross and the Catholics I know do not 'worship' crosses either.
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JAMES WOODS is in the hospital (heart related)
by Terry injames woods has been a long time regular on this discussion group in all of its incarnations.. he had some kind of "heart-attack" and has been in dallas' emergency ward for several days.
he also has a blood clot doctors are working to break up.. 972-261-4412 is his cell number.. he was in a talking mood yesterday afternoon.. i bet it wouldn't kill him to get some well-wishes.. james goes back a long way as an ex-jw.
he knows where the bodies are buried :).
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carla
Wishing him a speedy recovery! -
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What would happen ??
by Clambake inthere is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
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carla
Congratulations on the baby!
Absolutely you must stop this guy, you already have the cult wedge in your marriage to some degree and now this guy on top of that?!
If he doesn't back off simply write a letter to NY and explain in the nicest way that you find it completely inappropriate for him to be constantly contacting your wife.......Use the headship thing for all it's worth! Tell them how unchristian you find it for another man to be so involved with another man's wife on such a regular basis...... Get started now if you want to do Christmas. Then you can have a lovely holiday with your new little one and beautiful wife.
Sounds like he kind of has the hots for her to me and feels he can or will protect her from you.
Over the years and reading all the elder stories it seems to me that some weird elders have a 'harem' mentality when it comes to the women. They (the elder) becomes the 'headship' for the poor sisters with ubm's. They like the power it gives them to be able to micromanage and have control over these brainwashed women who fear reprisal from the higher ups.
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Are You Easily Offended? ðŸ˜
by minimus ini'm sick and tired of everyone claiming to be "offended".
if you are not politically correct, you will need to apologize for some perceived slight.. when i was an elder, i purposely avoided as much as i could, anybody that got easily offended.
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carla
I'm offended your offended by people feeling offended, off to find my safe place......
I'm so damn sick of all the pc crap I could puke, we are raising a bunch of pansies (as my dad would say).
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What is it like to have that one true friend?
by My Name is of No Consequence inwhat is it like to have that one true friend?
growing up in the org, i never really had friends.
i had many acquaintances, some of which were worldly.
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carla
jw's have an odd idea of 'friends' in my opinion. My jw calls everyone he has had a conversation with a 'friend'. I would call them acquaintances instead. Naturally he thinks all jw's at the kh are real friends. I have tried to tell him they are conditional friends but ....
I have friends that I have known since I was a little girl and they love me no matter what, no matter what goofy thing I may come up with or get into. It doesn't matter what I believe they will always be there no matter what.
Luckily I am not a jw so I can voice my opinion on the jw's if he brings it up which is rare these days. Should we have the dreaded jw discussion, I hope he does tell the cong! it would educate them on their stupid cult! and a nice byproduct is that they stay far away from me!
Sorry your wife is threatening you with telling the elders on you. Does she have any clue how that would sound to a non jw? What does she think of all the news about Scientology and Leah Remni (sp?) tell all and their 'suppressive persons'? (vs jw 'apostates')