Here is what the jw's say about disfellowinshipping. I can not seem to past the text from their website help.
Jw.org on disfellowshipping
You can use the text box ICON T above to cut n paste
Did you mean this? If not what specifically are you referring to?
(Note centered heading below:Quotations)
announcement: od 154; w96 1/15 19; om 148
appeals: od 153-154; om 147-148
association with disfellowshipped: w88 4/15 26-30; w86 3/15 18
court case over refusal: w88 4/15 26, 28-29; g87 10/22 27
benefits: yb93 191; w88 4/15 27-28, 30-31
Bible basis: w06 11/15 27; od 202
children: od 158; om 151-152
parental relationship with: w07 1/15 20
comments by historian Edward Gibbon: w88 4/15 30
Hymenaeus: it-1 1164
early Christians: w88 4/15 26-27, 30; g87 10/8 27
Corinth congregation: w88 11/15 14-15
elders visit disfellowshipped: w96 11/1 14, 16; w93 7/15 27; w91 4/15 21-23; w91 8/15 28
theft to cover investors’ losses: w97 7/15 13
Aborigine returns to truth: w94 5/1 30
accept deservedness: w11 2/15 32; g98 3/22 30; g97 6/8 27; g96 9/8 27; w88 4/15 30-31
achieves reinstatement: w10 3/15 32
attack in media (Norway): yb12 156-157
attracted to truth because of another’s: w92 3/15 12
chief defends Witnesses: w91 7/1 31
elders visit disfellowshipped: w93 7/15 27; w92 8/15 31
lady impressed by: yb93 191
parents disfellowshipped: km 8/02 4; g92 10/22 19-21; w88 4/15 30
fear of: g97 1/22 12
feelings of disfellowshipped: jr 73
funeral for disfellowshipped: km 3/97 7
grounds: w98 3/15 22; w92 7/1 19; w89 9/15 18; w88 4/15 26-27; it-1 788
absolute endangerment of mate’s spirituality: w88 11/1 22-23
apostasy: w89 10/1 19; w86 3/15 15; w86 4/1 30-31; w86 10/15 31
bestiality: it-1 292
bloodguilt: w06 9/15 30
blood transfusion: jv 183-184
dishonest practices: w86 11/15 14
drunkenness: it-1 656
employment involving gambling: w95 5/15 23
extortion: w89 1/15 22; it-1 789
fraud: om 142-143
gluttony: w04 11/1 30-31
greed in relation to bride-price: w98 9/15 25
loose conduct: w06 7/15 30-31
obscene speech: lv 136-137
persistent gambling: w89 7/15 30
polygamy: jv 176
promoting sects: it-2 886
sexual abuse of children: g93 10/8 10
slander: w89 10/15 14; om 142-143
subversive activity: w95 10/1 31
use of tobacco: w06 7/15 30-31; w95 5/15 23
whether violation of secular law is: w86 10/1 31
willful nonsupport of family: lv 220-221; w88 11/1 22
hearings: w92 7/1 17-19; w89 9/15 18-20; om 145-147; it-1 788
discerning repentance: w95 1/1 27-30; om 146
distinguishing between weakness and wickedness: w95 1/1 27-31
distinguishing gross uncleanness and loose conduct: w06 7/15 30-31
example of Law covenant: it-2 233-234
Jehovah’s example: it-2 233
urging wrongdoer to change: w95 1/1 30-31
how disfellowshipped can obtain literature for personal use: km 7/04 3
divorced noncustodial parent: g97 12/8 11-12; g91 9/22 30
if disfellowshipped answers the phone: w95 7/15 27
how to treat family of disfellowshipped: jd 149-150; w95 7/15 26-27; w91 4/15 23-25
Israel (ancient): it-1 787-788
synagogue procedure: it-1 787
Jehovah’s example: it-1 787
loving provision: lv 35; g96 9/8 26-27; w95 7/15 25-27
meaning of term: w91 4/15 16
mercy in connection with: w91 4/15 20-25
mercy toward disfellowshipped: w95 12/15 28-29; w91 4/15 17-25
newly baptized wrongdoer: w96 1/15 19
not evidence of unforgivable sin: w95 12/15 29; w92 9/15 12
procedure: om 147-148
unbaptized publishers not disfellowshipped: om 148; w88 11/15 18-19
understanding clarified (1952): w06 5/15 24-25; jv 187
1985: w86 1/1 13
1986: w87 7/15 15; w87 9/15 13
1988: w89 12/1 17
1990: w91 11/15 9
wrongdoers no longer associating: w87 9/1 14
constitutionally protected privilege: w88 4/15 29
right of every society: w88 4/15 30
The one that made me burst out laughing was "Jehovah's Example." exactly!
are you talking about this article?
"Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.
We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “ Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. ”—1 Corinthians 5:13.
What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.
Disfellowshipped individuals may attend our religious services. If they wish, they may also receive spiritual counsel from congregation elders. The goal is to help each individual once more to qualify to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Disfellowshipped people who reject improper conduct and demonstrate a sincere desire to live by the Bible’s standards are always welcome to become members of the congregation again."
Yes I am
The website is just mutton dressed as lamb.
They seek to make the religon appealing to others, and in order to do that, they dishonestly represent what they actually teach to its members.
Who would have thought it would be such an effort to make the 'truth' appealing.
jw.org: Disfellowshipped individuals may attend our religious services. If they wish, they may also receive spiritual counsel from congregation elders.
I'm pretty sure most elders do NOT know this. I was an elder for over 20 years and we were NEVER told such a thing. The most we were instructed to do was make our perfunctory annual visits on DF'd ones in our territory.
Of course it could be new, I've been out for a few years, but I doubt it.
I think this is just media hype for the PUBLIC. A little PR for the uninitiated.
Don't you guys get it? Spiritual counsel for disfellowshipped ones is "don't talk to anyone but us. Come to all the meetings and sit your ass down. Write a letter in a year or so, unless you are related to one of us and just give it about three months." Doesn't that about cover it fellow ex-elders?
Wasanelder Once, sadly, you're right.
Still, it sounds better in print than it ends up working out in practice.
Their idea of "helping" is to shun you.
Write a letter in a year or so, unless you are related to one of us and just give it about three months.
You forgot about cases where an elder is attracted to a disfellowshipped one. I know a case of disfellowshipped female who was openly celebrating a "worldy" holiday and then about a month later she was reinstated, with the meeting where she was reinstated being only the third time I saw her at the Kigndom Hall after she was disfellowshipped. It was so disgustingly obvious that it was because two members of the Body of Elders were attracted to her that she got special treatment.
It was actually because of this situation, and one of the two elders attracted to the disfellowshipped woman proving himself to be a disgusting liar in relation to another situation, that I started posting on JWN.
Who cares if you are DF'ed or DA'ed. The end result is that the WTBTS promotes that JWs should shun you for both offenses. The WTBTS is run by lawyers.
Remember how Bill Clinton didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky but his cigar did?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
- Can anyone provide a Scan of g96 9/8 26-27?
The only spiritual counsel any df person gets is "attend all the meetings and check back with us in 6 months .... Oh and stop doing whatever you were df'd for"
such BS ... They write it like counseling services are available continuously. I guess you could hound the elders and constantly ask for a meeting, but that would only work a couple of times. The df person would be avoided like the plague after that.
2 + 2 = 5 - "They seek to make the religon appealing to others, and in order to do that, they dishonestly represent what they actually teach to its members."
Once again, for the lurkers, newbies, and trolls...
If you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended.
"We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.”—"
While that is strictly true, the fact is that they df people for many other things than the Bible's moral code - as if it even had one. Some day I will write up my story and post it here.