Candace Conti's Attorney Takes the Stage

by Juan Viejo2 65 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • flipper
    flipper

    Just saw part 7 with Simons saying ' it took the Catholic church more than one lesson to get the point and it will take the WT society more than one lesson to get the point. " Freaking awesome ! I want to buy this guy a round of drinks. This guy gets it. He totally understands the criminality of the WT society's evil, wicked hiding tactics. On to Question & answer # 1. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Question and answer # 1 priceless quote from Simons, " the governing body didn't bother to send one of their members to the trial. They've known about their policies from before. The governing body hasn't learned their lesson yet. " Priceless ! Epic quote. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Question & answer # 2 , " the jurors were offended by the WT attorneys misuse of Bible scriptures to uphold the PR image of the WT society. " LOL ! I like this attorney more and more . Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • blindnomore
    blindnomore

    The Watchtower lawyer used Matthew chapter 18 to reach their secular goal, that is to protect themsleves from the law suit. The Watchtower would better figure out how they are percieved by the public sooner or later. Their lack of interest in protecting child is obvious to everyone.

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    The last set of Q&A segments is now online. Also available as a single full set at http://randytv.com.

    Another set will be going up on my own website at Ex-JW.com later this afternoon (Saturday August 4) and at exjwslosangeles.org (Cynthia Hampton's group site).

    Everyone attached to this project encourages you to spread the word. Upload or link the YouTube videos to your own sites or attach them to your emails and Facebook accounts.

    Here are the links to Q&A 3 and 4:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbyeAtFnudg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvyRGoquIl8

    Thanks for everyone support. I appreciate it - and I know Candace Conti does too!

    JV

  • flipper
    flipper

    BTTT, Peace out, mr. Flipper

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  • soft+gentle
    soft+gentle

    thanks juan. I'm wondering how to get my family to watch. I could say the end is coming faster than you think, please watch and tell me if you agree

  • cedars
    cedars

    I think the main thing to come out of Rick Simons' presentation is the pressing need for more "Candace Contis" to step forward.

    Interestingly, he said that "thousands" have contacted him with their own claims of childhood sexual abuse, but Rick repeatedly stressed that there are certain sets of criteria that MUST be met for any case to succeed in court. As I understand it, these are as follows:

    1. Age - the person must still be relatively young and/or the abuse cannot have happened beyond a certain point in the past.
    2. The perpetrator was a non-family member.
    3. On learning of the perpetrator's tendencies, the local elders contacted Bethel.
    4. Bethel returned instructions. (i.e. there's a paper trail)
    5. Due to these instructions, parents of the victim were not warned, allowing the perpetrator his opportunity to abuse the victim.

    (If I've missed anything, please draw my attention to this)

    It seems that, despite a flood of phone calls and emails, since the verdict nobody has contacted Rick who meets those specific criteria, although Rick is personally convinced that more victims like Candace are out there.

    These unknown victims desperately need to come forward, and allow Rick to use his blueprint for success for their benefit.

    Cedars

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    And here's the kicker. He became a jw, and make no mistake about it, he was NOT supervised. He eventually became an elder and has spent a large portion of time with a relative on my mom's side of the family from the time she was a small child. She even spent summers at their house, for Christ's sake! I have no idea if he molested any other children.

    (((( jamiebowers ))))

    They don't boot these criminals out. Vicki Boer's father Gower Palmer is still a JW as well. Makes me want to puke.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    Just watched the last couple of these videos, and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that everyone watches them, at least some of the question and answer ones.

    I think it was the last video where Simons explains how WTs x-exam of Conti blew up in their face when he argued that "ONE TIME is too many let alone 5 or 10." They really don't get it.

    Watchtower attorneys really seemed disorganized/bewildered at this trial. It was as if they didn't know what to do in a real trial as opposed to a settlement. I think they are in HUGE TROUBLE.

  • cedars
    cedars

    breakfast of champions

    Watchtower attorneys really seemed disorganized/bewildered at this trial. It was as if they didn't know what to do in a real trial as opposed to a settlement. I think they are in HUGE TROUBLE.

    Precisely. If they were so unguarded with their comments during the trial - where's the guarantee that they will be able to deliver the goods during the appeal?

    Cedars

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    I've watched all the videos and they are well worth viewing.

  • dontplaceliterature
    dontplaceliterature

    Great work! Thanks for posting Juan! I put these on reddit, as well.

  • Sheep2slaughter
    Sheep2slaughter

    I gotta tell you....the people asking questions in the videos, questions like, does he still go to meeting, do people still associate with him, why isn't he disfellowshipped....etc...these people make those who have left the organization sound stupid. They don't even know basic witness rules or procedure. They don't even promote or advance any legit agenda. It just gets irritating.

    Having said that about some of the questions, these videos are awesome and I love being in the know on such serious subjects. Thanks to all those that have made them available and continue to promote them.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    My question would be why isn't this guy incarcerated or in a mental institution?

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    My question would be why isn't this guy incarcerated or in a mental institution?

    Because Jonathan Kendrick had the sense to not allow two witnesses to any of his sexual crimes. The "Two Witness" rule is protected by the first amendment. We live in a free world where religions are given free reign to govern their people how they see fit. They are given the freedom to work as mini countries, almost like an Indian reservation. This means that what religion you are born into is what chooses your quality of life and ultimate safety. It's paramount to keep new people OUT of the Watchtower at all costs. The people that are still in have freely chosen the lifestyle of denial even though leaving is very hard, it's been done. As long as the US Constitution exists, the JW's will have freedom to harbor sexual criminals behind their system, but will have to pay money every time they offend a citizen who is also a minor. It's a dirty world, but somebody's got to live in it.

    -Sab

  • blindnomore
    blindnomore

    I am sooooo glad Candace case didn't settle but went to trial. It's about time the truth about the Watchtower finally come out . Candace I can't tell you enough how grateful I am for your courageous conviction! You did it for us all.

    side note: For the sexual victims, report the crime to the Police and/or the Chid Protective Service(if you are a minor) as soon as possible. The authorities have a rape kit that will help tracing the perpetrator. You will have a second witness, DNA evidence , if not more. Even for those of old cases, you just never know. Your perpetrator is may under the police radar already. I know of a case that the law enforcement has their ears open for another report on the perpetrator. Just because you don't have a civil case doesn't mean you don't have a criminal case.

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  • moshe
    moshe

    saved for future

Topic Summary

rick simons takes the stage and tells why the candace conti lawsuit was the right case at the right time against the watchtower.. this is the first of at least three videos documenting mr. simons' presentation on july 14, 2012. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffywyvy9anm.

last segments of this program should be up within a few hours.. .

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