Psychopaths, atheists and agnostics

by Fernando 21 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • nothx
    nothx

    This is old territory. Read:

    Wright, Robert. The Moral Animal

    Joyce, The Evolution of Morality

    de Waal, Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved

    A trite, one sentence answer that doesn't begin to cover the tons of evidence and reasoning done on the subject is:

    We have morals and a conscience because it behooved our ancestors in the EEA to conform to various societal norms to increase survival rates, or in other words, it turns out that populations consisting of brains with a conscience are better at surviving.

  • glenster
    glenster

    Obviously we all know atheists and agnostics have nothing in common with
    Psychopaths."

    "In fact I would hold that atheists and agnostics generally have better
    functioning consciences than religionists."

    I think those ideas simplify things to a leading question. If "psychopath"
    is taken to refer to irrationally harming people, neither basic belief in the
    basic God concept or definitions of atheist or agnostic stipulate harm. Either
    might be psychopaths.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question

    Even religionist is too general given the growing segment of believers who are
    progressive/reform on the points of wanting separation of church and state,
    equal rights for women and homosexuals, etc. They might even add that a huge
    number of people in the world belong to or finance organized crime and believers
    may consider James' "show me your faith by your works" as counting such people
    as not of faith.

    Here's an example about hard-line Islamists that had even me scratching my
    head, if this time enjoying it a bit:

    "Hardline Islamists back Aboul Fotouh for Egypt president"
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17897055

    "Liberal gets Salafi backing in Egypt's presidential poll"

    "Salafi group spokesman Abdel Moneim al-Shahat acknowledged a big difference
    with Aboul Fotouh over his understanding of verse of the Koran, 'there is no
    compulsion in religion,' which he interprets to mean that the state should not
    compel people to follow religious rules."
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17897055

    Some believers and non-believers have entered lists of the great causers of
    abominations, the chief psychopaths/harm causers about such things, and many of
    either would never want their choice to cause an entry on such a list.
    http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm

    Causing an entry seems to grow more from believers or non-believers being
    'centric or intolerant than actual psychopathy. Not keeping up to speed on the
    known things God is possible beyond can be shown in a mistaken fundamentalist
    literalist, but also a 'centric non-believer propandizing against believers,
    or either furthering the ideas of an Erich von Daniken book or such, as noted by
    atheist James Randi:

    "Belief in the paranormal is not restricted to persons of lesser intellect
    [but] what surprised me in the extreme was to find that an organization com-
    prised of the intelligentsia seems overly committed to this brand of nonsense!
    The group is known as Mensa... Like a scalpel that is never put to use by a
    skilled hand in a good cause, brainpower is often not put to work."
    http://www.gpposner.com/Flim_Flam.html

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