WT June 15, 2012 - No lasting career in this system
WT June 15, 2012 P23
15 If you are approaching the end of the schooling required of you, you may find yourself in good health and with few responsibilities. Have you seriously considered entering the regular pioneer ranks? No doubt, school counselors sincerely believe that it is in your best interests to pursue higher education and to plan for a secular career. Yet, their confidence lies in a social and financial system that has no lasting future. On the other hand, by pursuing a theocratic career, you will be pursuing truly worthwhile and lasting goals.
Compare this to the well known quote from 43 years ago:
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"
Of course most of those who did the University around 1969 are now retiring, if they have not yet retired.
For those currently working is states:
Many of God’s servants today work long hours to care for the basic necessities of their families. Yet, some may be working more hours than necessary. The commercial world is doing its utmost to convince us that we cannot live without its many products and every new model that comes on the market. But true Christians do not want Satan’s world to dictate their priorities.
And for those who have been able to retire and think they can start enjoying life, it continues:
As for those who have retired from secular employment, what better way to use their time than in the pioneer ministry?
I want to scream: CULT
JW is warned that choosing to attend college is "unwise".
JW heeds "loving counsel", and gets no education beyond what is "required of you".
JW ends up as a Walmart cashier or a night janitor.
JW discovers he can't live on $8.50/hour for 40 hours a week, and so gets a 2nd or even 3rd job.
JW reads WT article condemning workng "more hours than necessary".
And you wonder why JWs are neurotic!
JW option career ad:
Shovel and bury human bones up to 1,000 years.
WTS (555) 1212
This is the rhetoric that ONLY A CULT WOULD DISPENSE!!!
That's why I'm 41 y.o. a burned-out brain! At this age, I should be in height of my career! Not trying to attend a college for the next 6 years just to 'start' my life.
The battle constantly with my daughter to make sure that she is FULLY EQUIPPED for THIS SYSTEM!!!! Of course, her dad wants her to full-time pioneer and get a part-time job. She can stay home as long as she serves Jehovah......
.......and she'll be where a lot of 30, 40 , 50 60, 70 year old women are NOW that I no personally.... NO WHERE and MAD AS HELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT A DAMN THING TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF!
How true. My mom and I watched Terminator films together. She started laughing so hard b/c she said she could see her mom in a truck shoveling up bones. And they call it paradise. False words. It sounds like a concentration camp to me.
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years . ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"
You will never fill a career as a door knocker, it doesn't pay anything, it makes you pay, with time, effort, money, and loss of a decent life. Hell I mean just what kind of a career is a pioneer, just plain Bs, nothing gained, nothing toward your retirement, and a wasted effort. All that you may accomplish is to make more $$$ for the bitchtower.
itscrap-I too was feed and believed this crap, turned down the idea of college and have accomplished nothing. It is very frustrating now, to be middle age, and trying to figure out what to do with one's self career wise.
i absolutely detest what the JW does to people, it's disgusting. it's completely ruined my life by taking my daughter away from me, it's a revolting cult.
iCeltic: Very sorry to hear that.
Well, I may have been around in 1969. I am no spring chicken now. No human's career is lasting. Why not do something interesting during your life span?
What would they do if there were no financial advisers, lawyers, and medical doctors? Architects, engineers, designers of printing machines, no computer builders, no computer science people, no trained artists, no secretaries who knew Word and Excel. No writers who knew English grammar.
No insurance underwriters, adjusters, chemists to find better inks. No pilots to take the GB all around the world.
They could never exist on their own which has to be worrisome if you consdier Armageddon.
leavingwt - I appreciate that.
Ambrose Bierce said it best:
After 43 years have passed - and disproven their anti-college lie, they come up with the same nonsense AGAIN!
Any humane or benevolent leader who argues against preparations for disaster is really an enemy of the people.
Who of us would drive with our hands over our eyes? Then, why would we plunge headlong into our future the same way;
especially because our feckless leaders urge us to do so deliberately blanking out all consequences?
If ever there was a clear definition of an Evil Slave it is the course of action urged upon Jehovah's Witnesses by their Governing Body.
I can recall being told as a thirteen-year-old that I ought not to spend much time on school work. It was of no value and Armageddon would be here anyway before I left school. But I did leave school before Armageddon - and became a pioneer - but I also began to read books I shouldn't read. Like Russell's Studies in the Scriptures and Rutherford's crazy stuff. And it all fell apart. Eventually - after being disfellowshipped - I went to university. And I loved it, I did post graduate study. And the University of Durham even supervised my research into the origins of the Watch Tower movement.
Armageddon will be here before I leave school? I've worked a whole career since being told that one and now I'm retired and getting on with a new career as a writer. So what do I think of the advice that the Wise Old Men of Brooklyn gave me? It was crap.
There is no future in money--true, but because hyperinflation is going to erode the value of debt based currencies. However, you can work around this by investing in something with intrinsic value or developing a skill you can use for barter. Yes, even buying Tide as currency is better than nothing (I don't, however, advocate stealing Tide).
However, you need enough income to buy the essentials for living. If it takes you 60 or more hours a week to do that, that cuts back on pious-sneering. "You are working unnecessary hours" is rubbish. Most of them are doing this because they need the money to survive or because that's what the work requires, not because they choose to work 60 hours a week. Unless you truly enjoy work, it is a drudgery to work 60 hours a week and most would rather work 40 hours a week. All the more so if you are working a low-end job that pays the equivalent of 2/10 ounces of gold per week instead of a higher paying job, college or special skills required, that earns a whole ounce (or more) of gold per week.
And how many are in fact continually getting expensive items? Things like 1 1/2 meter TVs, cars that can go 300 km/h, big fancy houses, and expensive clothing that is not expensive merely because it is higher quality. Many people get expensive stuff simply because it's higher quality and actually costs LESS when you don't need to keep replacing things. Or, they spend money on better health--one thing I recommend any witless get is a fluoride filter (you will spend close to 300 toilet papers on a good one, and 60 more per insert that lasts 10 Pur filters at 15 toilet papers, and the filter itself outlasts the leaky Pur filters, saving you money in the long run). Do that, and see if your thinking is still messed up that you still want to be a witless.
I went to the 1969 Peace on Earth convention in Wembley. And sadly I always fell for this crap:
" If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years "
Today I see the trickery in the words. In the first sentence they state as fact I would never grow old, but in the third sentence the evidence only 'indicates' it might be. This is how the GB lies their way out of things years later, by republishing the third sentence and saying the publishers ran away with themselves when they believed the 'fact' of sentence one.
How could I have been so gullible? I will never know the answer to that now, but I do know if I ever met a member of the GB I would punch him in the face and not give that a second thought.
I did grow old. And to any young JW reading this I will state as a fact that you will grow old too. Because all the evidence indicates the GB are all liars.
Their own words kill them!