KHConf - I had no idea how big it has become!

  • sir82
    sir82 >

    If you are a JW in the US or Canada, you probably already know about "KHConf". It is a business that has been set up (presumably by some JWs somewhere) that supplies call-in numbers and teleconferencing for shut-ins to listen to Kingdom Hall meetings.

    They have their own website: www.khconf.com.

     

    What I didn't know is how much they've spread! Their service is available in Australia, New Zealand, and much of western Europe.

     

    Does anyone know anything about the company? They charge local congregations a fee for their service. All the congregations around here (in Mongolia

     

    Oh well, it's not the first time. Remember "Circuit Leasing"?

  • besty
    besty >

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  • No Room For George
    No Room For George >

    I'd like to see a competitor come along because we've had trouble with them, and they're not real keen on returning your call or your email. It's almost as if they hope you'll just go away when a problem arises and you've voiced your complaint on numerous occasions.

  • sir82
    sir82 >

    Competition?!?!? Among Jehovah's happy people in the spiritual paradise?!?!?!

    Perish the thought!

  • maninthemiddle
    maninthemiddle >

    They are reselling this company, and probably taking advantage of bulk pricing.

    At least they are up front about it. The price are reasonable, from what I have seen in the industry.

    http://www.genericconf.com/en/articles/pricing

  • undercover
    undercover >
    It's almost as if they hope you'll just go away when a problem arises and you've voiced your complaint on numerous occasions.

    Kinda like when you've cornered an elder on a doctrine or teaching that isn't supported by scripture.  They promise they'll research and get back with you but never do.

     

    This is probably some enterprising pioneer who was trying to supplement his part-time income.  I'm surprised Brooklyn hasn't squashed this.  Profiting off congregations that have infrim and elderly that can't get to meetings... oh wait...  the WTS tries to profit off all the dubs.  You learned well, young grasshopper of the KHCONF...

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George >

    I can't tell you how many times I walked into the meeting on a Sunday or Thursday and I hear the Servants running around like chickens with their heads cut off because, "its not working!" "Again?" "Yeah!"    Or later in the middle of the meeting, the phone in the library or the kitchen is ringing because everybody got cut off unexplainably and all those old people are calling back like its Bingo night.

    You know another nuisance with KH Conferencing, is the unwritten policies or maybe there was a letter on this subject, I can't remember? At any rate, we don't give the phone number or the code to healthy JWs. I've seen people who were going to have surgery and not be at the meeting for a couple weeks request the number and pin# so they could, "get hooked up."  Some elders were such sticklers for rules that they didn't give out the pin#. The Ministerial Servants' hands are tied because they have to get an ok from one of the elders before giving it out. Funny thing to me is if I was post surgery and layed up for a couple weeks, I could care less about the meeting. You've been to one, you've been to them all.

  • just n from bethel
    just n from bethel >

    I know the brother that started this and the few he has working for him that run it. Hopefully admitting this won't lead to identifying myself.

    I'm actually surprised that Bethel hasn't tried to capitalize on this and directly offer kingdom halls this service (at a suggested contribution of $2.43 per publisher - wink wink)- but I wonder if it's because the guy running it, would be put out of business faster than an armani suit disappears from a bethel hopper. He was a former bethelite (and I think they like that he takes on all the liability for failed operation issues)- and I know he's been up to bethel a few times to discuss his operation. It wouldn't surprise me, if they have informally meddled in his pricing structure - you know to look after the friends' best interest.

    They have asked him to change the name of his company to 'generic conferencing' or something like that - although they allowed the website address khconf.com to continue.

    But as far as him banking in the big bucks - I know there are just a few employees altogether, probably less than 10. It would seem that the potential to rake it in is there - and I'm guessing he nets six figures easily - if not, it's because he's doing it wrong. The cost is pretty much the cost of his Asterisk servers (renting or owning - he probably does both being as he's gone international now) and the phone numbers and the block of minutes with each of those numbers - I can tell you the latter is not a lot. Creating an asterisk server is pretty darn cheap too.

    Kingdom halls could basically do this themselves with an old computer and it might cost a couple bucks a month - (tops!) plus an internet connection. But then you'd have to have someone knowledgeable to make sure the machine stays up and running.

    As for competitors - there are actually many out there - and savy halls with know-how bros are starting to use them - there are actually some free services out there that some halls use. But this guy has thousands of congregations as his clients and while I remember him as kind of an arrogant prick, I still gotta hand it to him, wish I would've thought of it. The good news for him, is that he's got an overlapping generation that has many years and decades of meetings left - with more and more getting older and infirm. I'd say if he keeps doing this right and keeping everyone at bethel happy - he better get rich. I'd guess he probably already is - but plays it like he's not.

     

  • ziddina
    ziddina >

    Sir82, if you're REALLY  in Mongolia, I want a pair of those pointy-toed boots!!!

    Might explain that wacked sense of humor that I enjoy so much!! 

  • Bella15
    Bella15 >

    Wow!  You still doubt it?  I am sure Watchtower is getting some money ouf ot it.  We need to find the public records of this company and follow the money trail?

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KHConf - I had no idea how big it has become!

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if you are a jw in the us or canada, you probably already know about "khconf".

it is a business that has been set up (presumably by some jws somewhere) that supplies call-in numbers and teleconferencing for shut-ins to listen to kingdom hall meetings.. they have their own website: www.khconf.com.. .

what i didn't know is how much they've spread!

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