www.jwproclaimers.org is now password protected. I think there is a yahoo group associated with this site....did anyone get the talks before it was locked up?
JW Talks Password Protected Now
No I have heard and given enough JW talks to last a lifetime, no interest in the site.
Yeah, real smart on their part. How are we supposed to enjoy the rich spiritual food, meat in due season, that will bring us back to Jehovah if they password protect the talks. Damn hypocrites. What are they afraid of?
goes to show how sincere they really are about getting their message out. NOT
another checkmark in the CULT column.
I'm not a JW, and I started listening to them.
Looks like I'm stumbled now.
My blood shall be upon their heads.
Well, there is a wealth of information there. The talks from the 50's and 60's are interesting. Unfortunately, the administrator seems to be fearful of the WT's own teachings being publicly available. If it's money ou are worried about, I'm sure some here would gladly provide bandwidth to host the data.
Same here. Had enough of those talks, and have give too many. They are probably scared that the Watchtower will shut it down so they locked it up. You know they wouldn't want anyone to get information that proves they said something different than the do now. They may loose a worker or two!
well, I received a rude pm from who I believe to be the admin. He first insulted my intelligence, then more or less informed me I wouldn't be able to access the talks.
it's unfortunate all that material is privately held, and can be deleted at any time and be lost forever. this kind of secrecy is part of the reason I decided to leave.
Boy, are you people stupid. You have to join the group to get access. And I am doing layout changes now. The reason that I set up the site is that there is so much focus on the Watchtower. I am one of Jehovah's Witneses,not the Watchtower. In none of these files, does anyone use the term "Watchtower Organization." The site is not about the Watchtower. I do not have Watchtower material on there. For that reason they have no jurisdiction over it. How is it that there are so many that are against and talking badly about Jehovah's Witnesses when you all don't even know about JWs? That is because you don't listen. But the purpose of the site is that all of you are so Watchtower this and Watchtower that, but yet Jehovah's Witnesses are much more than The Watchtower. They are just publishers of printed materials. There are no printed Watchtower materials on there. The purpose also is to have accurate information that was given in the past rather than looking back. Actually I passworded it because I am doing layout changes and uploads until tomorrow. But people are making alternate statements.
>The reason that I set up the site is that there
>is so much focus on the Watchtower.
>I am one of Jehovah's Witneses,not the Watchtower.
>In none of these files, does anyone use the term "Watchtower Organization."
>The site is not about the Watchtower. I do not have Watchtower material
>on there. For that reason they have no jurisdiction over it.
>How is it that there are so many that are against and talking
>badly about Jehovah's Witnesses when you all don't even
>know about JWs? That is because you don't listen.
I agree, some people don't listen. When I first came to this site, I thought all the people here were nothing but complainers. I saw many ad hominem attacks which are pointless in the end. Also, I was a raised a JW, so I know the teachings and lifestyle very well. I know what it means to be a JW.
>But the purpose of the site is that all of you are so Watchtower this
>and Watchtower that, but yet Jehovah's Witnesses are much more than
>The Watchtower. They are just publishers of printed materials.
>There are no printed Watchtower materials on there.
I agree, JW's are much more than the WT. Your site fills in those gaps. Another reason I am interested.
>The purpose also is to have accurate information that was given in the past
>rather than looking back.
Exactly, this is what I'm after.
>Oh, I do have the so-called "stay alive til 75", but I can not verify the
>authenticity of it.
I actually obtained that talk from another source today. It would be interesting to see if your source is the same.
>Actually I passworded it because I am doing layout changes and uploads
Fair enough, but you must understand why some on this board would think otherwise. I look forward to the site coming back online and appreciate the service you are providing.
....Well it's not locked up very tight. Someone has a lot to learn about secure authentication methods....
>...Well it's not locked up very tight. Someone has a lot to learn about secure authentication methods.... It's not supposed to be, unless you want to get a bunch of bad links right now. I see that someone has alot to learn about patience and reading directions.
Thanks for explaining what's happening. Looking forward to when it's back online.
As a person with archivist sensibilities, I am in awe of your site too. Oral talks are the sort of ephemera that rarely survive in recorded form, and which communicate much more via verbal expression than what can be conveyed in written form. I also have an original contribution of my own (an experiences talk by a GB member from the early '80s), so I may sign up as well. :)
This was funny. I have never been to the site, but imagine it does have a lot of interesting information. I guess I am past needing to hear it-I heard it all when I was a kid, and I know what was said about 1975, blood, heard disfellowships, saw weddings, went out in service. Been there done that. I know what they taught. I passed the quizzes with flying colors. . .its good for those that don't know what is actually said or to show what is taught. That anyone takes the time and trouble to put up and maintain a board like that or this one is very unselfish and generous. I appreciate all the others that do that so I can bookmark really good information. Thanks!