My daughter is engaged! So why is my heart under my feet......

by Bryan 40 Replies latest members private

  • Bryan
    Bryan

    I just received this letter.






    Dear Dad,


    I?m writing to let you know how I feel, and some decisions I have made. I have felt this way a very long time, I have just chosen to ignore it and cover it over. But I feel I have to tell you because some things are going to have to change. So here it goes.

    First of all, none of this is coming from mom, all of it is coming from me. Exactly how I feel, and think.

    Although you are my father, we have chosen different paths. You have chosen the world, and not to live by Bible principles or standards. You disassociated yourself, and you chose what you wanted to do. You know enough about the Witnesses to know that I should treat you like a disfellowshipped person. Accept in your case it?s worse. Because disassociating yourself means you are not repentant and that you do not feel bad for the things you do, or have done in the past. The court papers said I had to see you until I was 18. I am no longer 18 and I feel that associating with you is a hinderence(sp) to my spirituality.

    It really made me mad when I came up for a visit for a week. And you were asking me all kinds of questions to try and disillusion me, and to make me have doubts in my head. Then you were showing me articles about it. And even though you were letting me go to the meetings and go out in field service, you still tried to make it hard, by things you said. It really put me out when you did that, because it showed lack of respect. And truthfully you don?t want answers to your questions you ask, because you are not interested in the truth, or what teachings we have. So you cannot fully understand, or want to understand it. It is like trying to reason with a drunk person. Because you didn?t want to hear it. You are content with your lifestyle, and the things you have chosen. You like doing what you want to do. Which is why you are no longer a witness.

    I would feel a lot better with my self if I didn?t associate with you. Because I should treat you like a disfellowshipped person. And truthfully I don?t want to visit you, and be around the lifestyle you try to have me live. I know you will truly be happy with me until I am out of the truth. And that will not happen. Because I love Jehovah, and I know that it is the truth. In the congregation there are problems, but everywhere you go there are problems, everyone is imperfect. But as a whole, Jehovah?s people are organized and have true Christian unity. You can go anywhere in the world and be taught the same exact thing that is going on all the way on the other side of the world. Where as other churches teach what ever they want. You can go to a Baptist church and be taught one thing, then go to one 30 minutes away and be taught another.

    I went to the meeting a few months ago, and they read a scripture out of the Bible. I was wondering how I was going to tell you all this, and if it is the right thing for me to do, and they read the scripture, and it made me realize that I had to do this, for myself. Jesus said these words, ?Do you imagine I came to give peace on earth? No, indeed, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on there will be five in one house divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father,?..? That is Luke 12:51-53, just incase you want to look at it. That scripture is very true. Because when only on family member serves Jehovah, and the other one doesn?t, then it causes problems. And to feel I am doing right, I need to sever ties. So basically until you start doing something about the truth, I don?t want to be around you, or talk to you. Because I don?t want to, nor do I need to. Everytime I would go visit you I would feel sick as it was nearing, and everytime I talk to you on the phone I feel terrible when I get off. I?m tired of feeling that way. And I?m tired of trying to make you happy. It wears me out.

    I am also engaged to a Brother in Lufkin. I don?t want him to meet you, or talk to you because you are not good association. And I don?t think you should come to my wedding, because I do not want an apostate at my wedding. He also has an understanding about this, because he has 2 disfellowshipped brothers. So he knows how it feels. I knew you would say you wanted to meat him etc. when I told you I was interested in someone. So just didn?t tell you. I am sorry about this, but you made your decision. You chose one thing and I chose another. So this is the way it has to be. If by me saying this means sacrificing a car, and a trip to Scotland, oh well. I would rather be happy with myself and the decision I have made, and know Jehovah is happy about it, then to keep pretending. You brought this upon yourself, and for that I am sorry, because you cannot truly be happy with your life, unless you have Jehovah and the congregation backing you up. At least I never could be. So here is where we must part. If you wish to contact me, I would prefer you write me a letter, or an email, because I won?t be taking your phone calls.


    Respectfully,

    Signature

    Anna

    I suppose she can't say "I love you" as she did just last May on the phone. She hasn't been returning my calls for a month now.

    Funny thing... Her last visit in Feb. I asked her to come for a long weekend (she's a pioneer), she suggested we change the date and she could stay for 7 - 10 days.

    What do you do?

    Bryan

  • desib77
    desib77

    ((((Bryan))))

    I'm so sorry you are going through this. Please just give her time. Daughters come around and realize they miss their dads....

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    :What do you do?

    I don't know my friend. Weep and I'm weeping with you. That is heartbreaking. I would say desib77 is right, keep hope she'll come around someday. But, I'd settle in for what may be a long hard road, because she'll probably need some hard life and JW experience to wake her up, and who knows when that will happen? It will happen though. Then again, she may just be on the sort of manic high that some witnesses get after an assembly or a CO's visit or maybe even just the circumstances of her engagement..... and if so, perhaps she'll be brought to earth sooner than later?

  • maybesbabies
    maybesbabies

    (((((Bryan))))) My heart goes out to you, hon. That's just horrible!!! I hope she comes around someday, and realizes what a hurtful thing she is doing..

  • PurpleV
    PurpleV
    You brought this upon yourself

    This is the bottom-line party line. Someone's been talking to her, elders probably. She didn't just come up with that on her own all of a sudden. An imminent wedding is what probably prompted this sudden interest in her relationship to her father.

    I'm so sorry. This slimy cult organization is all about control. Hopefully some day she'll see it and she'll be back.

    So basically until you start doing something about the truth, I don?t want to be around you, or talk to you

    Conditional love. If you ever get a chance, you might tell her that your love for her comes with no strings attached.

    First of all, none of this is coming from mom, all of it is coming from me

    Could this possibly be untrue theocratic warfare? Why mention it at all?

    I know this really hurts, but if it helps at all remember she's completely brainwashed and really does believe she's doing the right thing. I really hope she gets free some day.

    It's amazing how many of these letters I've read on this board and how they all sound exactly alike, almost like there's a template for them or something. They could almost all have been written by the same person. Hmmm.....

  • gitasatsangha
    gitasatsangha

    Bryan,

    I feel terrible that you got that letter. I have daughters and I can't imagine what it would feel like for them to say soemthing like that. If there's any comfort in it, she's just trying to do what she thinks God is wanting her to do, not realizing it has nothing to do with faith at all, just schemers who need her allegience.

    She can change her mind, and who is to say but that the odds are she will one day? Maybe she might even see this website, see this post, and realize the hurt she's delivered. I once said some very bad things to a good friend and family member of mine when he left the Witnesses. I regretted it for years afterword but didn't tell him. Apologizing to him (and really meaning it), was liberating in a way I can't describe. We are good friends now. I hope that the same happens for you, so that neither you nor your daughter have to suffer in your feelings.

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    I'm sad to say that there isn't anything you CAN do. The WTS has convinced her that anyone who doesn't follow THEM-has turned their backs on Jehovah--and no amount of persuading her will change her mind at present.

    I am truly sorry that you received a letter like that---it sounds so cold and unemotional. The WTS robs the JWs of their souls and hearts, only demanding loyalty to the Org. My own daughter married a year after I left and never told me. Her brother ( a nonJW) emailed me a few days before the event, because although ALL my children were invited---he felt crummy knowing that I hadn't gotten an invitation or notification of any kind. She married an Elder. My husband used to ask me whatever happened to the "honor your father and mother" business. I guess that's conditional too.

    Not that this helps very much, but many of us are going through the same thing---having adult chldren cutting us completely out of their lives--because the WTS says so. It really stinks. My heart goes out to you also.

    hugs,

    Annie

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    Oh, Bryan, I am so sorry you had to read that letter!!!! What a hateful, hateful attitude she has. Sounds to me like she's feeling REALLY noble about giving up her dad for "the Truth."

    A friend of mine told me this when I got pregnant with Jennie: "Remember that from the moment that baby leaves your womb you are training her to leave you." For better or for worse, that's what we do. We raise them to have their own lives and while their choices can be very hurtful to us, that is about THEM. (Remind me of these bold statements when mine grow up, okay?)

    My suggestion would be to write her a loving letter and just tell her that you will always be there for her if she needs you. Your door is always open, no matter how she feels about you because you are her father and that bond can't be broken by anyone. And then let it go. You may want to send your wedding present at that time too and wish them a happy life, since she won't do you the common courtesy of telling you when it will be.

    I am so very very sorry.

    Lots of hugs,

    Nina

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy

    I am so sorry about the letter. Unfortunately, the Organization has blinded her, and she feels she is doing what she is supposed to do. It makes me so mad that people like yourself have to go through such things. Hopefully one day, the Org. will be exposed for what it truly is, and the followers will start using their own brains, and feel real emotions, instead of having everything dictated to them as how they should feel, what they should do, etc. In the meantime, I guess the best we can do is try to keep our chins up, and let them know that we still love them no matter what.

    I hope that one day, your daughter sees the real "Light", and welcomes you back to her.

    edited to add;

    One thing that I have noticed having read this letter, and so many others like it, including one that I also recieved is the fact that not once is there a "Thank you" for anything good that a person did. No thanks for all of the good things one has done to support family, raise children, be there Unconditionally for so many years, and give, give, give of ourselves to make the person happy. It is disheartening that the letters always focus on the negative, and usually is centered around themselves, and never anything positive one has done to enrich the other's life. It makes me realize even more that the people in the Org. can be very selfish, unappreciative people, everything revolves around them and if you do not fit their "Mold", they have no place for you whatsoever. It seems a person can give of themselves until there is nothing but a stump left, and it does not amount to a hill of beans if you do not follow their way of teaching. They are truly a "Sad" people.

  • Valis
    Valis
    I am no longer 18 and I feel that associating with you is a hinderence(sp) to my spirituality.


    Good lord almighty this kind of stuff pisses me off! When a girl is 18 she should still have/want her dad in her life...Anyone who would condone that kind of shunning is not IMO a christian. Dude, I'm terribly sorry for you and I hope you are alright. Maybe drop me a line or sumpin and we can hook up soon.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

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