As most are aware, Vicki Boer has been long awaiting a decision to be handed down in a case she started against the Society in Canada.The decision was handed down today. As with any 55 page decision, it will take some time for the legal experts to hash it over and decipher what was said. But, in a nutshell....Vicki won. Not much by way of $$$ in fact a paltry sum of $5,000. But in the Judge's own handwriting in announcing the Order she wrote, "$5,000 for negligence against the Watchtower Society." The local elders were not found to be culpable but the Society corporately was.Financially this is insulting but compared to the Canadian standard of extremely low costs awarded even against the perpetrators of the most extreme child abuse ($75,000-$150,000 CDN) it is large enough to be noticed by the Society.There is some language in the decision that is absolutely HUGE by way of opening the door for further lawsuits. The Judge gave an excellent write up regarding the stranglehold the Borg has on its adherents. i.e While it is true Vicki was legally an adult when she attended the committee meetings to confront her abuser, she was by no means capable of free will to decide not to attend due to the relationship and power held over her by the church.The Judge also spent about 10 pages explaining why in Canada the freedoms given to religion are NOT absolute and damage to an individual supercedes the rights of a religion. So while the amount is not large, the fact that any damages were awarded is a victory since it has never happened before to the WT Society over an abuse case. It is historic.Vicki is shocked by the small amount but is somewhat bolstered by the gains legally for future cases. Awarding of costs of the court case is going to be battled out by the lawyers. So Vicki will likely end up out of pocket for at least some of her legal costs. This is something we as a community can possibly assist with once the final amount is known and perhaps some can help out as they are able. Thank you to all those who have been of support in this case and please continue to show Vicki your appreciation for her strength and determination in exposing the Borg for what they truly are, uncaring selfish egoists interested only in covering their collective ass.I look forward to hearing the comments of those more learned than myself as the decisions itself gets analyzed.Uzzah
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| Uzzah | LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
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| kgfreeperson | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
This is shaping up to be a very exciting legal week! | ||
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| Pleasuredome | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
great news! congrats vicki!!what i want to know is, did the judge make any comment on the fact that the WTS lawyers claimed that the WTS had no duty of care? | ||
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| neverthere | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Wow, at least she won, I wonder how many who were so against her and didn't believe her feel now. I know that it was not a large sum of money but it is something.Congratulations Vicki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We knew you would do it!!!!!!!!!Love Diana | ||
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| jgnat | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Is it just me, or is this a big step, "the freedoms given to religion are NOT absolute and damage to an individual supercedes the rights of a religion" | ||
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| Scully | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
jgnat writes: Is it just me, or is this a big step, "the freedoms given to religion are NOT absolute and damage to an individual supercedes the rights of a religion" You bet your sweet bippy it is!! This is a major kick in the teeth for the WTS. Love, Scully | ||
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| jst2laws | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
This is GOOD! Very GOOD! Been waiting a long time to hear this. Thanks to Vickie for challenging them and winning. Jst2 | ||
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| ignored_one | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
((((((((((Vicki))))))))))Nice one!! Ignored One. | ||
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| Cassiline | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
"the freedoms given to religion are NOT absolute and damage to an individual supercedes the rights of a religion" What a statement!she was by no means capable of free will to decide not to attend due to the relationship and power held over her by the church. What a victory!My gradtitude to the Judge.
(((( Vicki ))))
I know as an abuse survivor myself that this "victory" must seem 'hollow' to you. Yet, what I see is a historic decision which was rendered because you paved the way for all survivors of such abuse to be reconized as a seperate entity from the rigors of religious indoctranation.
Because of your bravery and tenaciousness abuse victims everywhere can know that they have not suffered in vain. They can have hope that because of what you did all potential victims will not ever have to worry about hiding their head in shame, realizing that justice is out there and will be met out.
The society will not be as quick to hide or allow by written doctrine children to be abused, or medical treatment withheld, psychological or even perhaps in the case of blood transfusions.
This decision can and I am sure be used in future cases other then abuse.
Thank you Vicki, thank you for all your bravery, know that you are loved, respected and held in high esteem.
Love
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| little witch | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
(((((((((((((((((((Vicki))))))))))))))))))))Congratulations dear one, the amount is an insult, but this is a historic legal step, and yours is only the beginning. Way to go hon !!!! | ||
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| StinkyPantz | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Congratulations Vicki!! | ||
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| Sam Beli | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Great new Vicki! We are very proud of you and the many scarifices that you have made. | ||
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| Lady Lee | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Congratualtions VickiWhile the settlement is not large we have to remember Canada is not known for huge court settlements.But few people do this for money. They do it for justice. And justice you got Vicki. They were wrong and the court believed you, validated you and gave you justiceNo court, no settlement, no amount of money will undo the damage but...
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| acsot | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
WAY TO GO VICKI!!!Thanks to your courage the WTS has had a well-deserved slap across its arrogant face. I bet this won't be mentioned at the district convention taking place this weekend!CONGRATULATIONS - this was for all abuse victims, your name will be synonymous with rights of victims in the Canadian legal system. Does anyone have the court docket #? | ||
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| rocketman | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
That's good news, and despite the small amount, the fact that the judge said that the rights of individuals need to be protected over the rights of a religion is very noteworthy!! | ||
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| bluesapphire | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Absolutely awesome!!! Vinally validation. Let's just hope that the US and European courts follow suit. It's about time the court systems begin to see through the Watchtower Society's bullshit!Congratulations and big hug to Vicki. | ||
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| Cassiline | Re: Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
she was by no means capable of free will to decide not to attend due to the relationship and power held over her by the church. This statement blows me away. The possibilities of applying this part of the ruling are endless IMO.If a child were being forced by it's parents to refuse a transfussio, the argument pressented and thereby referred to as a an opinion from Bower VS. The WTBTS could state that the parents are not acting upon their own free will in making a decision of their own free will. ( I think )Could it possibly open up options for "Concerned Father"? who is suing the society now? "The freedoms are not absoulte and damage supercedes the rights of religion". God I want to read this entire decision. Cassi, of the thinking out loud class tonight and in stunned amazement. | ||
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| dmouse | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Like everyone else I am stunned at this brilliant news.Courts tend to follow previous rulings so this is a victory indeed - the WBTS must be shaking in its boots at the thought of what's to come.Well done Vicki, abuse victims everywhere are in debt to you. | ||
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| Dansk | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
Absolutely wonderful news, Vicki! We all know how tremendously difficult the entire trial scenario must have been for you - but you had the guts to dig your heels in and stand your ground. We salute your courage! You have helped more people - and not just abuse victims - than you will ever realise.
Bless you, Vicki. Love,
Dansk and Family | ||
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| Cassiline | Re: LANDMARK DECISION - Vicki Boer vs Watchtower Society | |
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Ignored One.
)Could it possibly open up options for "Concerned Father"? who is suing the society now? "The freedoms are not absoulte and damage supercedes the rights of religion". God I want to read this entire decision. Cassi, of the thinking out loud class tonight and in stunned amazement.
Love,
Dansk and Family