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Isn't it wonderful that Jehovah is spending his time helping the Governing Body decide to do away with Bookstudy, instead of helping Elisabeth, and the thousands like her??

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/04/27/austria.cellar/index.html?eref=rss_topstories  


(CNN) -- Austrian police believe a 73-year-old man held his daughter captive in his cellar for the past two decades and fathered at least six children with her, according to police and state-run news reports Sunday.

The woman, identified as 42-year-old Elisabeth F., has been missing since 1984 when she was 18 years old, police said at a news conference.

The situation came to light earlier this month after her daughter -- a 19-year-old woman, identified as Kristen F. -- was hospitalized after falling unconscious, according to police.

She was admitted to a hospital in Amstetten, outside Vienna, by her grandfather with a note from her biological mother requesting help.

But police said a DNA test later revealed her grandfather, Josef F., was also her father, according to ORF, Austria's state-run news agency.

That sparked a police investigation which revealed that Josef F. may have fathered at least six children with his daughter, forcing her and the six surviving children to live in the cellar of his house, according to ORF's Peter Schmitzberger.

The children are now between the ages of 5 and 19 years old.

Police are awaiting DNA tests to verify their relationship to Josef F., who faces arrest for "severe crimes against family members," according to police. So far, he has not given a statement to police.

"One can't imagine how it could happen, how nobody could realize anything of what was going on in the cellar of this house," Schmitzberger told CNN. "It's quite unimaginable."

Acting on "a confidential tip," Amstetten police apprehended Josef F. and Elisabeth F. on Saturday near the hospital for questioning, according to a police statement. Once police assured the daughter that she would never have contact with her father again, "she was able to tell the whole story," Schmitzberger said.

Josef F. lived upstairs with his wife, Rosemarie F., who police said had no idea about her husband's other family living in the cellar.

Josef F. and Rosemarie F. had adopted three of the children that he had with his daughter, according to police. He told his wife that his missing daughter had dropped the unwanted children off at the house because she could not take care of them, police said.

The other three children -- Kerstin, 19; Stefan, 18; and Felix, 5 -- remained locked in the basement with their mother, according to police. None had seen the light of day during their entire time in captivity, police said.

After she was detained on Saturday, Elisabeth F. gave police a "psychologically and physically disturbed impression," police said in a statement. She told them her story after she was assured her children would be protected from further harm.

She said her father began sexually abusing her at age 11. On August 8, 1984 -- weeks before she was reported missing -- her father enticed her into the basement where he drugged her, put her in handcuffs, and locked her in a room, she told police. For the next 24 years, she was constantly raped by her father resulting in the six surviving children, she said, according to the police statement.

She told police she gave birth to twins in 1996, but one of the babies died a few days later as a result of neglect, and Josef F. removed the infant's body and burned it.

She told police that only her father supplied her and her children with food and clothing, and that she did not think his wife knew anything about their situation.

When Kerstin fell ill earlier this month, Josef F. apparently told his wife and the hospital that his "missing" daughter had dropped off the sick girl on his doorstep.

In an effort to find out what might be ailing 19-year-old Kerstin, the hospital asked the media to put out a bulletin requesting any information about the girl or her missing mother, attorney general Gerhard Sedlacek told NTV.

Sometime later, Josef F. brought Elisabeth F. out of the cellar, telling his wife that she had returned home with her two children after a 24-year absence, police said.

He took Elisabeth F. to the hospital to talk with doctors about Kerstin's condition, and at that point, authorities became aware of her situation, Sedlacek said.

 

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jambon1Re: Shoot the bastard!!
I feel the same. They accept that Jehovah intervenes in human afairs to make sure that a pioneer gets his car bill paid by an envelope through the door, yet he won't intervene in human afairs when it comes to matters like helping Elizabeth & millions of other children who are being abused.
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chickpeaRe: Shoot the bastard!!

stunning, the depths of depravity that exist ......

what a struggle lies ahead for that woman and her children

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momzcrazyRe: Shoot the bastard!!

I don't think he should be shot. That is letting him off too easily. How about locking him in a basement and having him raped for 24 years? He can't become pregnant and give birth, but I'll bet someone can think of an alternative treatment.

momz

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boyzoneRe: Shoot the bastard!!
bugger the bugger
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keyser sozeRe: Shoot the bastard!!
I don't normally support capital punishment, but some people don't deserve to live.
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RabbitRe: Shoot the bastard!!

Damn...when you think you've "heard it all" some psychopathe comes along to 'top' the lower limits of human depravity.

My wife was molested by her father. I have not been able to think of something worse, then...I read this.

Punishment...? Nothing could truly re-pay the horror he inflicted. I would vote for some personal like stoning or being beat to death by baseball bats. At the hands of the victims and family members.

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JK666Re: Shoot the bastard!!

Shooting is too good for him. How about gang raped to death?

JK

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Witness 007Re: Shoot the bastard!!
Worst story I ever heard........I hate hunting but I would shoot him!
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yknotRe: Shoot the bastard!!

Why would anyone do such a thing?

Where was the mother/grandmother?

Sick and heartbreaking

Hang him high and let his corpse be dragged through the streets.

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Hope4OthersRe: Shoot the bastard!!

 

Off with his Head either one!

 

hope4others

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MissingLinkRe: Shoot the bastard!!
Rusty pick-axe starting at the feet and working up.
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CasperRe: Shoot the bastard!!

Good God...!!!    What is wrong with people...

How could you NOT know people with babies were living in the basement.........Damn...!!!

Life in prison, were he can be torture everyday for the rest of his life...

Cas

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RabbitRe: Re: Shoot the bastard!!

Well, now that the 'cat is out of the bag'...the bastard admits it !

 

 Yahoo! News

Austrian admits 24-year abuse of daughter in cellar

By Sylvia Westall 57 minutes ago

A 73-year-old Austrian electrical engineer has confessed to holding his daughter captive in a secret, windowless cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children by her, police said on Monday.

The case, centered on a nondescript two-storey building in the small industrial town of Amstetten, bears chilling similarities to that of Austrian Natascha Kampusch who spent eight years locked up in a basement before escaping in 2006.

Some parts of the cell in which the family were kept were no more than 1.70 meters (5 ft 6 in) high and officials said the basement even contained a padded cell.

"This is an appalling crime. I know of no comparable case in Austria," Franz Prucher, head of security for Lower Austria told a news conference.

Elisabeth Fritzl, 42, says her father, Josef Fritzl, lured her into the basement of the block in 1984 and drugged and handcuffed her before imprisoning her.

Three of her children, aged 19, 18 and 5, had been locked up in the basement with her since birth and had never seen sunlight, police said, raising worries about their physical and mental state. The younger two were boys, the eldest a girl.

Three other children -- two girls and one boy -- were brought up by Josef and his wife.

As well as confessing to locking up his daughter for 24 years and siring the seven children, Fritzl also admitted to burning the body of the seventh child in the heating system when it died soon after birth, said Franz Polzer, head of criminal investigations in the state of Lower Austria.

All the victims are receiving medical treatment, said police. State prosecutors said Fritzl would be summoned before a judge later on Monday.

Investigators spent the day combing through the cells where the victims had been held captive. Forensic experts in white uniforms and gloves carried out boxes of evidence from the house which is on a busy street with shops.

Fritzl had hidden the entrance to the cell behind shelves and only he knew the secret code for the reinforced concrete door, said officials.

Photographs showed a narrow passageway leading into other rooms which included a cooking area, sleeping area and a small bathroom with a shower. A tube provided ventilation.

Amstetten, located in rolling hills about 130 km (80 miles) west of Vienna, is an industrial town of about 22,000 people.

HOSPITAL VISIT

The case unfolded when the 19-year-old girl became seriously ill and was taken to hospital, prompting doctors to appeal for the girl's mother to come forward to provide more details about her medical history.

Fritzl then brought Elisabeth and her remaining two children out of the basement, telling his wife -- who thought their "missing" daughter had chosen to return home, police said.

Elisabeth agreed to make a comprehensive statement to the police after receiving assurances she would have no further contact with her father, who she said abused her from the age of 11.

Kampusch, who spent her teenage years held captive, offered to help the victims and told ORF radio she might talk to the family.

"I can imagine that it is very difficult both for the mother of the children as well as for the wife of the perpetrator to get through this," she said.

Psychiatrist Max Friedrich, who treated Kampusch, said the children were undergoing tests in hospital, in particular for problems with their eyes and skin due to the lack of daylight.

"And socially ... the (children) could not develop any sort of sense of community which they would get from going to school or playgroup," Friedrich told Reuters.

SHAME

The case has raised questions about how authorities and neighbors failed to notice anything unusual in the "house of horrors," not least because officials said Fritzl had over the years built extensions to the secret cellar.

"The community of Amstetten should drown in shame ... The neighbors are turning a blind eye," the Oesterreich newspaper wrote in an editorial.

The daily Der Standard wrote: "The whole country must ask itself what is really, fundamentally going wrong."

Another puzzle is how Josef's wife Rosemarie could have been unaware of what was going on.

Police have said they believe Rosemarie did not know what happened to her daughter when she disappeared in 1984. It was assumed Elisabeth had left voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her saying they should not search for her.

(Additional reporting by Alexandra Zawadil in Vienna and Reuters Television; Writing by Karin Strohecker in Vienna and Madeline Chambers in Berlin; Editing by Ralph Boulton)

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kwrRe: Shoot the bastard!!
Are the JW's the police men of the world? Really these people aren't even JW and you are ranting that the GB should do something about it.
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AlemanRe: Re: Shoot the bastard!!

Kwr,

  It's not that the JWs are policing the world, because they don't, but it's just that the people in this forum wish they had something on the JWs with this awful news. In other words, the one who said that is just coo-coo, crazy.

-Aleman

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CaedesRe: Shoot the bastard!!

Kwr and Aleman,

The poster is not claiming the WBTS is in any way responsible, The original poster was merely making the point that according to the WBTS the change in meeting arrangements is blessed by Jehovah. Jehovah allegedly has the time to direct the exact number of hours that JWs spend in meetings but failed to do anything to help this poor woman and her children.

Jehovah's to-do list

1. Bless the new meeting arrangement.

2. Deprive random people of confectionery.

3. Arrange for pioneer X,Y and Z to find random confectionery whilst out on service.

4. Sort out a couple of large angels for solitary female pioneer escort duties.

...

6,000,000,001. Prevent heinous act of evil by paedophile in Austria.

6,000,000,002. Prevent storm from killing thousands in Burma.

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