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Swan"Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

The JWs always give a lengthly explanation as to why they don't celebrate Christmas or birthdays, and then always add the final statement "Besides, we give gifts throughout the year!"

Yeah, right! Okay, lets get an unofficial count of all the people who actually did get gifts on other days of the year. I mean nice gifts, and wrapped properly. I want to hear about the gifts you got as a child just because your parents wanted to give you a gift, and not a birthday or Christmas.

Also, it's not fair to include gifts that your dad got you that were clearly toys for himself. My dad got "us kids" some radio controlled airplanes and cars that sat up on the shelf until we were "old enough" and so they were up there for many years to just be looked at. I think they were sold at a garage sale just before we moved.

So do they really give gifts throughout the year, or does the next gift need to be a bullshit meter?

Tammy
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HamasRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

They do speak some shit, innit.

 
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Satanus when i was a Re: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

I don't remember any gifts like that from my parents or other dubs, nor did i give any when i was a kid.

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ashitakaRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

0.  Unless it was an occasion...

Anniversary, Graduation, Wedding...and even then, you find more stingy people than generous ones.  For my Graduation, I received a couple of inexpensive presents and 36$.  One of my friends, who kissed all of the JW ass, got over a thousand, and none of it was from family.  You had to be connected to get anything worthwhile on those three occasions.

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ValisRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

We got things from time to time, but well so do other children. sheesh...The only time it was made any big deal was on the day of my parent's wedding anniversary.  And then it was very little if anything.  By the time I really started to care I was making my own money one way or another and bought my own toys and most of my clothes.  That started when I was about 11 or 12 doing odd jobs for the drunk elder who "helped" me get baptised and selling candy and school supplies to the people I went to school with.  This in itself though got me to thinking just how dumb it all was that we couldn't be a part of any festivities.  It was fun going to shop for presents for my friends at school...especially chickies during the holidays...My mom tried to get me to not do anything holiday like when I was in the ninth grade...*LOL* I lied..deny deny deny...*LOL* That was the last time I let her try to have a say in what I did at school or otherwise.  I guess I can thank my parents for showing me how to decieve people just to get what you want, something young people should never have to do or be put in such a position when they get old enough to make their own religious descision. It isn't even fun to think about really...The one thing in my head is the smugness with which they spoke of others who had decorated their houses or were out shopping during the holidays..."Boy, aren't we glad we don't have to do that?"...bleck...This leads to odd thinking IMO..When I was quite young I spent may an hour in the middle of the night sneaking out during xmas break w/my cousing and wire clippers in hand....alas I hope Jehovah was happy that all those xmas lights suddenly stopped working! *LOL*

Sincerely,

District Overbeer
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minimusRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
The only time I hear people say, "I wish I was one of you Jehovah's Witnesses", was during the holiday season. While everyone went into debt, we could afford the after Christmas sales............No, I never got any special gifts to make up for the holidays, but I never felt that I didn't have as much as everyone else.
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FunchbackRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

I have always had a problem with that statement. Here's why:

When the JWs say "Besides, we give gifts throughout the year", they are suggesting that non-jw's ONLY give gifts during birthdays and holidays. Is that really true? The fact is, non-JW parents buy their kids gifts year-round, too. Do you think when you see parents and children going to Marshall's or Toys-R-Us or Electonic's Botique or The Limited Too that those parents must be shopping for their kids because it MUST be their birthday of it MUST be Christmas time? Isn't it fair to say that they may be in those stores buying their children something because they did well in school or because the child did a special chore around the house or because, well, JUST BECAUSE?

The next time a JW says the they buy gifts throughout the year, say to them: "SO DOES THE REST OF THE WORLD!"
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YerusalyimRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
My step son Barry pointed out to me about three years ago that he'd NEVER received an actual WRAPPED present in his life until I came on the scene.  Now Sean, his younger brother who has denounced the Society makes a point of wrapping all the gifts he buys for people.
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jwbotRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
My parents bought me what I needed...but never a wrapped gift. I remember for a couple years waaaaaay back when I was a little kid, we had "family day" with a couple crappy gifts...hoo rah.
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rocketmanRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
Yeah, I never bought into that "gifts throughout the year" stuff. It's a bogus excuse to try to make them look like a rational group of people in the face of possibly looking very bad by never bothering with gifts.
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concerned mamaRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

My daughter's ex boyfriend  told me that same line about giving gift throughout the year.  His parents gave him clothes for school and new sports equipment when he needed it, or a bonus to go with the really great report card.  I am a "normal" (thank you, Minimus) person and I give things like that to my kids, too. They get special extra things on their birthdays or Christmas, and having to wait for them makes these gifts even  more special.  Anticipation is part of the fun.  My kids give me and their Dad, and each other gifts on birthdays and Christmas, and really enjoy looking for just the right present, that is just right for that person (and that will fit in in their budget). Because remember, it isn't just kids getting gifts, it is for them to learn to GIVE gifts.

So I pinned the ex-bf down on when was the last time he GAVE a  gift to a family member........and I don't mean something expensive, he is a teen after all.  He may have given his Mom something once a long time ago, didn't think he had ever given anything to his Dad, and knew for a fact that he had NEVER  given anything to his brother.  So much for giving gifts throughout the year.  It is pure BS.  This JW boy loved getting things himself, but really didn't have any joy in giving and really didn't know how.
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maybesbabiesRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
We'd occasionally get some new toys, when my parents could afford it, but it wasn't very often.  So, my sister R~, my bestfriend, and I started what we called "friend day".  The third Friday of every month was "friend day", and we would make (or, rarely, buy) presents for each other, usually depending on what we needed or what had happened that month.  For example, I had an old disgusting pillow that I slept on, so my best friend sewed me a beautiful big blue fluffy pillow with my name on it!!!  It was awesome.  We would go to a thriftstore in our neighborhood that had this "dollar a bag" sale, and whatever you could stuff into a brown paper bag, you got for a dollar.  So we used that to make clothes and such for each other. 
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doodle-vRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

ppppppth!!!

 The only time i can remember getting wrapped gifts was when i graduated from highschool, and when i got baptised. That was it. My parents bought us what we needed and from time to time we got extra stuff, when they could afford it. I do remember hearing that excuse in the Watchtower and of course at demonstrations at assemblies and talks at the meetings. My best friends' family would have a "family day" and buy each other wrapped gifts once a year. Our family tried that but we never kept it up. To this day I get all excited when someone gives me a wrapped gift, and I really enjoy wrapping up gifts for people because I rarely did it when i was a dub.

 

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Eyebrow2Re: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

We parents were so damn poor...and had so many kids my dad was RELIEVED that my mom was a JW hahaah...

We sometimes got gifts...my mom tried to do a toy party for a few years..in January...when all the toys were on sale..and she  did wrap them.

It was fun...I never really felt deprived as far as gifts go...I did think it was stupid that some kids I knew had to wait until Xmas to get a new pair of boots or coat because their parents could not afford much. But I DO hate that reasoning...just say, hey we don't do it because we don't celebrate XMAS..end of story...there is no need to justify it if you truly believe it.

 
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ThirdsonRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

I knew plenty of JW kids who never got any presents at all.  To them the "giving gifts throughout the year" was one big lie.  In my family we did get gifts.  We usually had a "winter" present to compensate for Christmas, and sometimes a summer present.  We were given pocket money and the ability to spend it how we liked.  I never got a wrapped present though until my wedding.  We were not well off but we had all the necessities and some.  We also had a vacation each year and it wasn't camping at the District Assembly.  (Except one year where we spent 3 nights, Wednesday to Friday, out of 14 in Ballarat, Victoria...that was bad but the rest of our road trip was fun).

Thirdson 

 

 
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drwtsn32Re: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

When I was growing up my parents sometimes threw a "family party."  These were great!!  But I only remember it happening three or four times.

I think I need to celebrade Christmas every day during this coming December to make up for lost time.  Honey? You hear that? Buy me lots of toys!
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Fe2O3GirlRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
My parents gave me gifts throughout the year, and, yes, they were beautifully wrapped by my dad.
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BluesBrotherRe: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

That tired old excuse always made me wince , because I knew that it was not really true.

As a kid I did not mind missing Christmas & Birthday. Hey, I was indoctrinated and I really thought that it was the right thing to do, and I have never been a particularly material person .

I am as guilty as the next dub, I must confess.They can just be forgotten  No doubt because we were not trained as kids to buy presents . Although it is clear from this thread that families varied a lot and some really tried to make up the loss.

Since gaining mental freedom I can see now that Christmas is not the sad affair to just get tipsy and regret it all year , that we were always told it was.Families do get together and with reall warmth and appreciation (sometimes)

 Up untill 1926 the WTS celebrated Christmas , did that mean that C.T.Russell and those around him had blocked the Holy Spirit because of keeping a pagan holiday?
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yxl1Re: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"
Yeah I heard that bullsh*t. When mum was studying, she told us that we were no longer going to celebrate xmas/bdays, but we would recieve gifts "throughout the year". 17 years later and I'm still waiting ...
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unique1Re: "Besides, We Give Gifts Throughout the Year!"

i got a new ten speed one year on my parents anniversary. Shortly after I turned 13 my mother gave me a birthstone ring. Since I was born in April, my birthstone was a diamond, so that was cool, it was extremely small, but hey it was still a diamond. When my grandmother died, my mother took Grandma's pins she had earned from years of service with a company, had them melted down and formed into a necklace with several rubies, pearls and 2 diamonds from the pins. That was quite the surprize.

I know Christmas sucked for us JW kids, but it was nice to be surprized. My hubby who grew up Baptist, had no idea what it was like to be surprized with a gift, because his parents had never SURPRIZED him with anything. Being suprized is a cool feeling. I am glad I got to expereince that even if I didn't get to celebrate Christmas or my Birthday. I hope to give my kids, if I ever have any, surprize gifts so they will know the feeling.
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