kind of like, 'look, we got sadam out of power', but not bringing up the billions of $$ made on oil, etc. and conveniently forgetting the horrid dictators in African countries who are doing worse than what sadam did, but they don't have the oil.

wtbts is all about political spin. hopefully the internet and the continued information flow will seep into the consciousness of many jws so they can get out before they jump out of a building:

They taught me worthless things.  Nothing they taught me was beneficial, and it was not accurate.  I didn't need to be taught the Trinity as false (I never believed in it before becoming a witless, and now I figured it all out).  The year 1914 was hogwash.  The Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger was not the same "faithful and discreet slave" that the Bible talks about.  Holidays?  I used Google to find out that Christmas is actually a sun-worship holiday in origin, but I celebrate it anyways.

What they refused to teach me is things of practical value.  How to attract the opposite sex--had they taught me useful things along that line, I might still be in just for that (and it would be some value to offset the cost I had to put up with while in).  How to make a reasonable amount of money (a reasonable amount of money is enough so I could live in a decent house, in a decent neighborhood, and not have to do without the practical necessities and common luxuries that the average person enjoys).  How to live in today's world.  All the advice they gave in those areas was total crap--none of it worked, even slightly.

When I missed my CA this year, everyone was wondering where I was at. I told them: at HOME.

Does anyone bother to come by and visit, maybe provide some spiritual support? Hell no.

The GB has such a hold on these people, it's ridiculous. It may seem to most of y'all that the R&F are frustrated or saddened, but they're not. From personal experience, I still know quite a few Witlesses who are hardcore, and who take in everything they teach. The Tower is not done ruining lives yet...

Hmmm.....can't imagine why that might be.

He said: "who taught you about 1914?  About the true identity of the FDS?

No doubt we all learned it from the Craptower Society.  But since it's easy to prove that both of these doctrines are completely false, their assertion that everyone should be 'grateful' for learning something that isn't true really is pointless.

OK, the trinity one I agree with, but you can learn that from the bible---not the WTS.  As for "pagan holidays", that's another joke.  Since half of what we do in life originated from "pagan" practices, their assertion that not celebrating Xmas or Easter somehow gets you brownie points with God is another joke.

this line of reasoning sounds like that of a man trapped in a corner, desperate for a way out, grasping at straws. this seems to correspond with recent Study Edition WT's lately too.

Yep.  They know that no matter how much they brow beat the R&F, people just don't give a shit anymore and it's showing.   What a shame.