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| 46&2 | anyone else feel inadequate | |
over the past 10 years ive tried coming back to the truth only to find myself back in the world doing silly things again and again. I am onnce again determined to come back to the truth but feel that i am beyond redemption. I feel ashamed going to talk to the elders cause they have dealt with me on two other occasions once being disfellowshipped 10 years ago and reproved two years ago. I know I want to come back but am not certain that i wont stuff up again. | ||
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| Hope4Others | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome, 98%(give or take a few) of the people who post here have a dim view towards the organization so it is highly unlikely you will find the encouragement you are looking for. If your heart is set to go back then this is not the place for you. Best wishes in your quest for inner peace & truth. Hope4others | ||
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| Sad emo | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome Remember this whether you go back or not. Your approval comes from God alone - not from men, not even from men who claim to act on God's behalf - like you, they are only men and as such they're imperfect. Keep your eyes and heart fixed on God alone no matter how bad those elders try to make you feel (if you go back) - you serve Him PS - DO NOT tell them you've visited this site or you might be in trouble for that too!!! I do hope you stick around to research though - ignore the fluffy threads and go for the Bible study ones. Don't be afraid to ask questions - no judgement here!
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| 10p | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
And dont be afraid to consider the idea that even the Bible may not be everything you thought it was. Consider the billions of people who believe in the Qu'ran and the Gita's and ask if you can truly limit yourself to just one supposedly divinely inspired book.
And if you're feeling steely, read something of Richard Dawkins. Then make up your mind. | ||
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| quietlyleaving | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Hi welcome I used to feel inadequate all the time but feel a lot better now this board has helped me a lot. ql
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| lisavegas420 | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
I'm just guessin', but I would say EVERY JW feels inadequate. That's how you're supposed to feel, isn't it. They constantly, week after week, year after year, remind you of how much more you should/could be doing, they constantly force feed guilt on you. You'll NEVER graduate from the Theocratic Minstry School, ...................You could try staying heavily medicated, that helps....for awhile. But...I'd suggest moving on with you life and accepting that being a JW doesn't work for you. Welcome to the board, hope you find what you're looking for. lisa | ||
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| The Doc 58 | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome: I agree with hope4others. The great majority of the people that post on this website do not favor the jehovahs witness organization. As a suggestion, ask yourself if what you have done to "sin" are really sins or just the jehovahs witness guilt trip indoctrination.
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| AK - Jeff | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome to the board. I began to investigate my faith carefully in 2003, trying to determine 'the truth about the Truth'. When I did - I left that religion. I hope you do the same - Investigate your faith. Jehovah's Witnesses tell everyone to do that - but they rarely do it themselves. When they do - they often find out things they never knew. You owe it to yourself. This site might help. Stick around. Jeff | ||
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| spanteach | Re: Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
constantly, week after week, year after year, remind you of how much more you should/could be doing, they constantly force feed guilt on you. For the longest time, I thought the problem was with me. I guess that's the point of it all, isn't it? You're not doing enough and (unspoken) you therefore are never deserving of Jehovah's unconditional love. And if you're not spending every waking moment talking, thinking, and doing theocratic things, you'll be destroyed at Armageddon. What a way to live. | ||
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| R.Crusoe | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Your whole soul is bound bt JW talk! Billions aren't! So you choose to be! And we all know the JW circles within spirals of lifestyle expectation are unachievable and relentlessly depleting of inner energies. At least that is my total experience of their ethos. It is also an ethos you will find elsewhere and building your own holistic optimism with nature and life and whatever you can tune into is not easy, especially without support from others! So relying on a ready made system to do so for you will have conflicts as well as support mechanisms. It is unavoidable! It is a system of 'arms length' support for large groups who must adhere to its infrastructure to maintain that tenuous support! Otherwise it would be unsustainable in its current form! Personally I seek soul bonds but will not succumb to weaker support networks to pacify my personal weaknesses because ultimately it further weakens and removes me from who I am as an individual to an extent that I do not know anything about anything without referencing myself to a group that makes me feel that way anyhow! I become reliant upon that which takes away my personal essence and am then at the mercy of confusion and depression and desparation and despair! I do not wish to go back! Sorry if that is not what you wanted to hear but it is what I feel! | ||
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| BurnTheShips | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Nobody is beyond redemption. The JWs don't have the truth. Embrace the suck. Burn | ||
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| R.Crusoe | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Does 46&2 mutate into 42&2 or would such need more lifetimes? | ||
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| mouthy | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome to this site .It is the UNCONDITIONAL LOVE site you asked anyone else feel inadequate While you are in the Jehovahs Witnesses you will always feel inadequate. WHY? Because you are doing WORKS. Every one on earth feels this way at sometime or other in their life. But when you start thinking for your self & realise your a real person that if you really DO believe the ONLY truth>Jesus.He died for you because we are not able to do everything RIGHT>>> I dont know why the elders have counselled you. But they are men! with faults also. So just KNOW God loves YOU!!! So continue in prayer & read what all these folks on here think about the Organization ,( JW) Not all are believers not all think alike but we all CARE about each other. You can say anything you like about your life. No one will condemn- they cant -because God examines your heart. & by your e-mail I would deem yours it pretty O.K. | ||
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| Tired of the Hypocrisy | Re: Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
According to the jw's EVERYONE is inadequate supposedly from God's pov. It is however from the wts pov that no one is worthy and must work their way into the Kingdom. Please don't let them push you down. I hope you find the peace you seek, whether in or out of the wt. | ||
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| logic&reason | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Not sure if this will help you or not, but here goes: As the son of an elder, born into the organization, I was always under the mcroscope. People would pick at every little thing, and though I never did anything wrong (even by JW standards) I was never doing enough. At the same time, I saw others getting away with whatever, things getting covered over, power plays, politics, and outright scandals. I struggled for a long time with things going on in the Hall. I would get discouraged and frustrated with what other people were doing, questioning how "Holy Spirit" could allow such things in the congregation. Then one day, while doing some research, I came across some information that made me start questioning fundamental dates. That made me do even more research outside of the WT index and the WT Library CD-rom. I started reading whatever I could get my hands on. I know the internet has been condemned by the society for years, so I went to the public library and started checking out references and following up on "facts" presented in the literature. What I found was astonishing. 10p posted a comment earlier about reading Richard Dawkin's works. Oddly enough, it was a reference in the Creation book that got me to start reading The Selfish Gene by Dawkins. That will change your perspective on a lot of things. Don't let yourself feel inadequate. Work hard to really learn the facts, and weigh them carefully. The "truth" is not always the truth.
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| potentialJWconvertswife | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
46&2- Welcome to the board. The Doc has something there- just because the Watchtower says you committed offenses doesn't necessarily mean God considers your actions offensive to Him. If you lurk around the board a bit you'll find that many of the doctrines of "the truth" are actually lies. Many of the Witness beliefs may be "Bible based" but they add in things that are not taken from the Bible and are not supported by it. Logic- welcome to you, too. Another good point- "the truth" is not always the truth! -Potential | ||
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| mouthy | Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
Welcome logic & reason. Good advice | ||
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| logic&reason | Re: Re: anyone else feel inadequate | |
I find it ironic that for all of the constant admonition to STUDY STUDY STUDY, the KM from (I believe) September 2007 was discouraging any investigation outside of the WTBS publications.
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