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doinmypart  WTS Emergency Meeting


The Disaster Relief Committee at Patterson organized 3 meetings this past Memorial Day, Monday September 5, 2005. The meetings were held in Lake Charles, Louisiana; Bossier City, Louisiana; and Ball, Louisiana. Over 1,200 elders were in attendance from Louisiana, Missouri, Arkansas, and Texas. I took horrible notes, but want to share a few things.

The elder opening the meeting emphasized the importance of confidentiality. All cell phones were to be turned off, except their's in case they received a call from Patterson. Confidentiality was stressed, they don't want family members or publishers to know the details of this meeting. WTS will release reports later through the proper channel.

WTS Disaster Relief called the meeting to inform local elders of what the current situation is and what will be happening in the future.

8 Regional Building Committees (RBCs) are working together as a Hurricane Katrina Relief Committee (HKRC). Patterson is in contact with this group at least twice a day every day planning and organizing.

Day one after the hurricane a few brothers from the HKRC went into New Orleans/Slidell area and began assessing damage to Kingdom Halls. The elders divided parts of southeast Louisiana into zones, my notes are sketchy and memory missing a few points, but in one zone 5 KHs are gone, 2 heavily damaged. Around Lake Pontchartrain 7 KHs are gone, 7 moderate damage, and some with light damage. On day two the brothers did more assessments, but martial law was put in place and they had to leave.

The elder handling one of the parts was very critical of Red Cross. He said the HKRC was going into shelters in Louisiana and Mississippi to identify and get JWs out. At Red Cross shelters they encountered problems, Red Cross officials wouldn't let them in. The brother said Red Cross gets money for every person they shelter so they didn't want JWs leaving the shelter. The elders dressed as if they were evacuees in order to gain entrance into the shelters and then once inside they put on their district convention lapel badges and walked around the shelters. The elder was very proud of this deception, and several elders in attendance seemed satisfied with the ploy. All of the JWs that were in shelters are now in JW homes. There are 3,000 - 4,000 displaced JWs, there are 8 missing from New Orleans. Patterson wants elders to get the name and home congregation of displaced JWs that begin attending KHs in new locations. This point was stressed. My thoughts are that WTS can't afford to let any JWs use this as an opportunity to fade or stop attending meetings. From the way the point was made to get publisher information and report it to WTS, methinks they are more concerned with losing members than members' welfare.

100% of Spanish JWs are accounted for because they were at their district convention, while only 90% of English JWs are accounted for...no doubt because they weren't at their convention. I don't see how those percentages match up to the numbers of missing they gave. Again, I think they are just trying to use this as another means to guilt people into going to the meetings and assemblies/conventions.

WTS says this is the biggest thing they have had to deal with. They need the cooperation of all congregations for Jehovah's glory. The HKRC will organize 40 departments working out of Kenner and Metairie. Patterson has a Communication Center setup in Tulane and 5 satellite offices (30-35 people per office) around the gulf area. These 40 departments will have a total staff of 500 personnel. There is a wireless computer hub being setup in Houston. At this hub, they are developing software just for Katrina relief, and they also have a dedicated line to Patterson. When construction begins on KHs and JW homes there will be approximately 5,000 - 7,000 construction volunteers used. No mention of where these volunteers will come from. My guess is perhaps workers from KH construction and Branch construction.

They concluded by telling us to prepare, offer, and wait for direction. They repeated getting names and congregation info of displaced JWs. And they told us to tell know one of the details of the meeting, and reports will be released through the proper channel.

And so there you have it.
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kwintestalRe: WTS Emergency Meeting

Don't worry, I'll keep this between you and me! 

Kwin
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SunspotRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
The elder opening the meeting emphasized the importance of confidentiality. All cell phones were to be turned off, except their's in case they received a call from Patterson. Confidentiality was stressed, they don't want family members or publishers to know the details of this meeting. WTS will release reports later through the proper channel.

For crying out loud----what is with all this secrecy???? Aren't all attendees to this high mucky-muck meeting all properly cleared ad identified? It's not as if they are the CIA meeting with the FBI to discuss how to take out terrorists! Talking about "how best to serve the brotherhood" is supposed to be the focus isn't it? Why is THAT secret?

"Proper channels" always sounds so needlessly selective and more suspect than the ones running this dog and pony show.

 

 
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OdradeRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
Well, at least they are doing something, but it seems they would get so much more done if they actually worked with other disaster relief teams instead of working around them. And the accusation about the RC... what was that for? To discourage anyone from giving a dime to another organization?
Of course, it's hard to work with other organizations when you have already dealt with YOUR people only, and are now concerned about the church buildings. Assessing Kingdom Halls the day after the storm? Couldn't that wait a week? The WTS won't allow them to be used for disaster shelters anyways, so what's their hurry?
This makes me angry. They are giving lip service to disaster relief. Spinning their wheels over property. I wonder what their donated % is that actually gets to the field? Of course they'll never report that... 500 office personnel? Developing software? What about rubber gloves and hipwaders? For what they actually accomplish, this number of "back-up support" seems completely unjustified.
But I am arm-chair quarterbacking.
I have a fundraiser in the planning stages... it will NOT be going to the WTS. Ha!
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DannyHaszardRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
 

# 2 Mystical Manipulation (cloak & dagger s**t)

In religious cults, God is ever-present in the workings of the organization. If a person leaves for any reason, accidents or ill-will that may befall them are always attributed to God's punishment on them. For the faithful, the angels are always said to be working, and stories circulate about how God is truly doing marvelous things among them, because they are "the truth." The organization is therefore given a certain "mystique" that is quite alluring to the new recruit.
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rebel8Re: WTS Emergency Meeting
WTS says this is the biggest thing they have had to deal with.
And that is true.  Once again, another example of how ethnocentric the WTS is.  This is not the biggest thing the world has ever had to deal with.  It is the biggest natural disaster the US has had to deal with (I'm told).  It is not the biggest natural disaster ever in the world.
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144001Re: WTS Emergency Meeting
Note that their only interest was in helping JWs. All others are part of this "evil system of things," and will be destroyed at Armageddon anyway, so why bother to help them?
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Happy Guy :)Re: WTS Emergency Meeting

Day one after the hurricane a few brothers from the HKRC went into New Orleans/Slidell area and began assessing damage to Kingdom Halls. The elders divided parts of southeast Louisiana into zones, my notes are sketchy and memory missing a few points, but in one zone 5 KHs are gone, 2 heavily damaged. Around Lake Pontchartrain 7 KHs are gone, 7 moderate damage, and some with light damage. On day two the brothers did more assessments, but martial law was put in place and they had to leave.

Interesting.  Do you mean to tell me that their primary interest was the condition and health of their real estate holdings?
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joelbearRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
what if every religion was so picky about who they would help
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BillygoatRe: WTS Emergency Meeting

Day one after the hurricane a few brothers from the HKRC went into New Orleans/Slidell area and began assessing damage to Kingdom Halls. The elders divided parts of southeast Louisiana into zones, my notes are sketchy and memory missing a few points, but in one zone 5 KHs are gone, 2 heavily damaged. Around Lake Pontchartrain 7 KHs are gone, 7 moderate damage, and some with light damage. On day two the brothers did more assessments, but martial law was put in place and they had to leave.

Interesting.  Do you mean to tell me that their primary interest was the condition and health of their real estate holdings?
 
That was the first thing I noticed too!
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sir82Re: WTS Emergency Meeting
Patterson wants elders to get the name and home congregation of displaced JWs that begin attending KHs in new locations. This point was stressed. My thoughts are that WTS can't afford to let any JWs use this as an opportunity to fade or stop attending meetings. From the way the point was made to get publisher information and report it to WTS, methinks they are more concerned with losing members than members' welfare.

Fascinating! I hadn't thought of that before. Imagine, dozens of congregations where publisher cards, judicial files, etc. are completely obliterated. Bethel only keeps track of elders, MS, and regular pioneers. A fader's dream come true! It would be most intersting to see how many take advantage of this opportunity.

Day one after the hurricane a few brothers from the HKRC went into New Orleans/Slidell area and began assessing damage to Kingdom Halls. The elders divided parts of southeast Louisiana into zones, my notes are sketchy and memory missing a few points, but in one zone 5 KHs are gone, 2 heavily damaged. Around Lake Pontchartrain 7 KHs are gone, 7 moderate damage, and some with light damage. On day two the brothers did more assessments, but martial law was put in place and they had to leave.

Interesting. Do you mean to tell me that their primary interest was the condition and health of their real estate holdings?

The image I have in my mind is an SUV or airboat full of well-dressed elders whizzing throught he flooded streets, zooming from one Kingdom Hall address to another, while dozens of people are calling out for help on rooftops as they pass...

Clueless idiots, I'm sure there was loud & long applause at how efficiently the brothers worked out the proprty damage, while scarcely a soul thought more than 2 seconds of the suffering poor left behind...
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BryanRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
in one zone 5 KHs are gone, 2 heavily damaged. Around Lake Pontchartrain 7 KHs are gone, 7 moderate damage, and some with light damage.

Wow, The Catholic Church down the road from me - less than a mile from KH - was fine.

Jehober has truly blessed the Catholics!

 

Bryan

Have You Seen My Mother
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Lady LeeRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
property?!!! that was first on their agenda?!!! My god can't they ever place people first?

And they are so concerned about the Red Cross getting a few bucks for providing emergency shelter. Notice of course that the WTS itself is not providing shelter for the evacuees. They "place" them with other JWs and I just KNOW who is and who is NOT picking up the tab for that.

and of course we all know who will eventually be paying off the repairs or rebuilds of the halls.
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lawrenceRe: WTS Emergency Meeting


Developing software! Yeah, it'll be called - "Fleece V1.0" - This new module will calculate expected yield on each building rebuilt, and based on profit (projected insurance check refunds) the householder will be put in the queue for rebuild (prioritization). More $$$, higher in the queue. After more than 25 years of personal product development I doubt they're developing anything aside from a few access database tables, data entry forms, and a few reports to track:

1) Projected Revenue By Householder

2) Householder's house specifics

3) Past and Current K.H. Associations

4) Who are the bad apples?

5) Crews and their proficiency (Revenue / Time)

6) Who are the bad apples in the crew?

7) Self destruct code - all gone I.R.S., Fed Gov., Wild Beast - we don't keep anything like that!

 

Edited to add:

doinmypart - Any mention of how to handle WTS donations after rebuilding?  Or, who/how to approach "those in the flock" who have had repair work done?   BTW - thanks for the post!
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Jim_TXRe: WTS Emergency Meeting

Interesting...

Phase 1 - assess the property damage to the buildings you are financing...

Phase 2 - locate the individuals who are still making payments on same said property...

Regards,

Jim TX
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tijkmoRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
so they didn't want JWs leaving the shelter

this is the thought that struck me....

much of the talk concerning victims of the tragedy has been that warnings were given and they went unheeded...the response from the victims has been that there was no point in giving a warning when there was no arrangement for evacuation..for people who did not have the means to do so for themselves..

but jws pride themselves on heeding warnings and on being organized to help others...this is why group studies are arranged for between 12 - 15 people...so the group study conductor can personally account for all under his care....so why should any jws be in relief shelters..they shouldnt be in the friends homes now...they should have been there from before it happened 
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Doubtfully YoursRe: WTS Emergency Meeting

I tell you all, no boubt, the WBTS has one heck of a plan when it comes to assisting their own.  It's just outstanding!

If they get their way, without fighting all the red tape, JWs will probably be the first ones to be rebuilt and carrying on with life as usual.

My hats off to the WBTS in this regard. 

Did you all know now there's a new arrangement in which there will be a superintendent to oversee the needs of the elderly in each individual congregation?  I mean, that's awesome!

It's all wonderful.  Just wonderful what they're doing for their people.

DY

 
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HonestyRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
The elders dressed as if they were evacuees in order to gain entrance into the shelters and then once inside they put on their district convention lapel badges and walked around the shelters. The elder was very proud of this deception, and several elders in attendance seemed satisfied with the ploy. All of the JWs that were in shelters are now in JW homes. There are 3,000 - 4,000 displaced JWs, there are 8 missing from New Orleans.
With 900,000+ active publishers in the US there could be approximately twice that many JW's (publishers, children, interested ones, etc.) in N.O. and surrounding areas.
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Finally-FreeRe: Re: WTS Emergency Meeting
For crying out loud----what is with all this secrecy???? Aren't all attendees to this high mucky-muck meeting all properly cleared ad identified? It's not as if they are the CIA meeting with the FBI to discuss how to take out terrorists! Talking about "how best to serve the brotherhood" is supposed to be the focus isn't it? Why is THAT secret?

The cloak & dagger stuff makes them feel important. How often does a JW get the opportunity to feel important?

W
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AK - JeffRe: WTS Emergency Meeting
Did you all know now there's a new arrangement in which there will be a superintendent to oversee the needs of the elderly in each individual congregation?  I mean, that's awesome!

I don't know DY if awesome is the word I have for it. 'Tis about time, comes to mind. They have needed to pay attention to that for the past 5 decades that I am aware of. Many elderly that I have known have been virtually abandoned by the cong as soon as they are unable to carry on the 'work'. I am glad they are finally paying attention to those who were the local backbone. I have to doubt it is out of true Christian compassion though. I only say that becuase I just never actually ever saw it in action. No disrespect to your opinion intended. Any progress in that organization in the general direction of Christianity will help.

I must agree that they have always been on the spot to help their own during emergencies. My problem with that is that I cannot imagine Jesus bypassing thousands in need to cross the country to help one who was calling himself a follower. In fact, I cannot remember a single incident in which Christ chose his own to perform a miracle cure, or feed the hungry. He helped whomever needed the help, as he came to them.

Just My Opinion

Jeff
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