Hey ya'll, t was announced this morning at the breakfast table that there are two new members of the Governing Body. They were formerly "helpers" or "given ones." Anthony Morris raised a family and then went into the traveling work. Later they were called to Patterson. Geoffrey Jackson is an Australian who was a missionary and a branch committee member before being going to Patterson.
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| truthsetsonefree | Hot News-New GB members | |
Hey ya'll, t was announced this morning at the breakfast table that there are two new members of the Governing Body. They were formerly "helpers" or "given ones." Anthony Morris raised a family and then went into the traveling work. Later they were called to Patterson. Geoffrey Jackson is an Australian who was a missionary and a branch committee member before being going to Patterson. | ||
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| rebel8 | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Wow! What are helpers and given ones?Does this mean the GB is bigger now, or are they replacing people who left? PS-I can't see the pics. I think you have to click on "insert pic from web" and then put the URL where that pic is hosted. | ||
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| PaulJ | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
truth... thanks for the info! So, when are you going to tell your story?? Oh, and I dont think Ive said before (better late than never) Welcome to the site! ![]() | ||
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| truthseeker | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
How old are they? Are they "anointed"? If not then how come they're on the GB? | ||
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| truthseeker | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Some info from an old post of Maximus....This was actually from Barb Anderson, regarding the "given ones"
I would like to share some insight about the now infamous statement in the Watchtower 1/1/89, p. 12, end of par. 8: "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Such information is be considered by all to be the "food at the proper time" dispensed by the faithful and discreet slave. Now that we are in the year 2001 it is seen to be patently ridiculous, of course. This statement got its human author into a heap of trouble. This is the same writer who was responsible for the ridiculous Nethinim "given ones" article in the W 4/15/92, and Questions From Readers, Watchtower of June 15, and the Oct. 15, 2000 purposely misleading directives on blood. By the way, everybody in the Writing Department knows who he is. | ||
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| RichieRich | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
How old are they? Are they "anointed"? If not then how come they're on the GB? Right?? Tell Carey Barber that Richie says Hey and that next time, he buys the beer. | ||
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| ithinkisee | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Who was this "writer"?If no one wants to post it, can someone PM me? I may know this person.-ithinkisee | ||
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| Lady Lee | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Aren't the "given ones" or "helpers" non-anoited?Mind you I could be wrong because they may have changed this upteen times over the last 20 years | ||
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| jeeprube | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
We really need a definitive explanation here. What does "given one" mean now? I've been out for too long to know. Are these men annointed? Or are they of the GC? This could be a MAJOR shift here.......please fill us in. | ||
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| rebel8 | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
ridiculous Nethinim "given ones" article in the W 4/15/92, and Questions From Readers, Watchtower of June 15, and the Oct. 15, 2000 purposely misleading directives on blood. I would love to hear more about all of that.Nethinim article? Whaaaat?"purposely misleading directives"? Purposely? | ||
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| ozziepost | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Geoffrey Jackson is an Australian Things will never be the same again!![]() | ||
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| RichieRich | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
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| truthseeker | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
OK, the link and article are posted here...http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/member/4372.ashxFood at Proper Time:Insider's Insight from Barbaraarbara Anderson's attention was called to the thread about the differences in policy of Great Britain and the US regarding child abuse; as you know she has championed a change in that policy. Another post caught her eye, and she expressed the desire to share some thoughts with you. I'm delighted to share her first post, which I know you will find riveting. She tells it like it truly is. Maximus _______ I would like to share some insight about the now infamous statement in the Watchtower 1/1/89, p. 12, end of par. 8: "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Such information is be considered by all to be the "food at the proper time" dispensed by the faithful and discreet slave. Now that we are in the year 2001 it is seen to be patently ridiculous, of course. This statement got its human author into a heap of trouble. This is the same writer who was responsible for the ridiculous Nethinim "given ones" article in the W 4/15/92, and Questions From Readers, Watchtower of June 15, and the Oct. 15, 2000 purposely misleading directives on blood. By the way, everybody in the Writing Department knows who he is. The Governing Body had vowed never to use dates for the "end" again after the 1975 fiasco, and here was another statement making only more trouble for them to deal with. Many people were phoning and writing the Society. You will notice in the Watchtower bound volume for that year, as one poster pointed out, the statement was changed to "He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our day." Why the blatant change? Because they couldn't allow the original statement to add even more to their reputation as "false prophets" when it comes to date-setting. This crackpot writer really got read the riot act because of his prophetic insightful words. Some of you might wonder how the gaffe slipped by the editors of the Watchtower. Well, Governing Body members Brothers Barry, Barr, and Kline were old, tired men, some of whom suffered exhaustion and jet lag from many zone trips, etc. It was no wonder as they quickly read through drafts of articles that such problematic statements could be missed. Only Barry was college educated O so long ago, and he was ill and exhausted most of the time. His mind was divided between putting out fires that were flaring up here and there within the earthly Kingdom he and his fellow GB members ruled, getting through his daily routine and assignments, moving from his room when the walls needed washing, etc. So the poor man couldn't help but be under pressure. (Once he told me he couldn't wipe the supper dishes and the counter to his wife's satisfaction.) Unquestionably, if articles passed through the anointed hands of these three men without red marks, they easily passed editors next in line pro forma. When the "20th century" statement passed without being red marked by the three GB members, all the other readers in the Writing Department, including the proofreaders, accepted that it was okay to state "in our 20th century." After egregious blunders like this, the idea of assistants to the GB in Writing who would do the editing work for the GB sounded like an excellent idea. As to the unfortunate writer, to any reasonable person it would seem that someone would be removed from his position who came up with such "new light" (Nethinim, the teaching that was a hoax), and seemingly highly educated medical information on blood ("four components"), which in reality showed the height of ignorance. That, however, was not to be so at the top of "God's organization," where blockheads are never in short supply. Remember, a person makes it to the top not because of education or intelligence, but because of one’s obedience and loyalty--and don't forget "seniority" or partiality to the "good ole boy" network. Our particular writer under discussion has been in Bethel since the 50’s and was famous for his insidious, obsequious behavior (brown-nosing, to be blunt). In fact, he was rewarded for his blunders by being made one of the assistants to the GB.Stay at Bethel long enough and you're sure to be a big cheese some day. It also helps if you know somebody. There are exceptions to the rule, of course. That's so particularly in the technical area. It doesn't take long to be moved to a really important department if you have needed skills, but that doesn't mean you will be an overseer. Overseers are usually men who are unskilled, but they lord it over the people in their departments who have the skills. Overseers are in their position mainly for showing obedience to organization rules. Writers in Bethel, with but a few exceptions, are not trained nor especially gifted. If you can write material a twelve-year-old can understand, you can be a writer; that is, if chance and circumstance have anything to do with it.Now maybe you, dear reader, can understand why all the contradictions, changes, blunders, and drivel that appear in the Society's literature. This doesn't mean that all articles appearing in the magazines are written by inept people. Some senior writers are excellent writers, but they can not express any new and different ideas, only the party line. Pedantic or precise people quickly learn the art of being non-controversial. Also, senior writers can accept and put through under their own name, very interesting and well written articles from certain people who are not in Bethel. Would the above be considered "new light" or maybe "present light" as C.T. Russell liked to call his cornucopia of non-inspired writings? I hope so.Money is not what drives men at Bethel, so what does? It's the three P’s: Power, Pride, and Position. What drives women in Bethel? For sure it's not the three P’s. It's called survival of the fittest! Barbara | ||
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| jeeprube | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Thanks for the article post Richie! I remember that one now. At the time I thought it was just silly. So that's it then. The GB has gone and appointed two new members, that aren't anointed. Wow........I'm just sitting here in shock. They couldn't even just say, hey they're from the GC. No they had to go and invent some special other "class" of Christian. Now we have the Annointed, the Nethenim, and then the Great Crowd.How do you get to be in the Nethenim class? Are they taking volunteers? Is there a sign up sheet somewhere? | ||
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| Stealth | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Thanks for the article post Richie! I remember that one now. At the time I thought it was just silly. So that's it then. The GB has gone and appointed two new members, that aren't anointed. Wow........I'm just sitting here in shock. They couldn't even just say, hey they're from the GC. No they had to go and invent some special other "class" of Christian. Now we have the Annointed, the Nethenim, and then the Great Crowd. They were formerly "helpers" or "given ones." I am sure they were upgraded to anointed class if they let them on the GB. | ||
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| jeeprube | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
I am sure they were upgraded to anointed class if they let them on the GBThat presents the same problem the last few appointments have. The Annointed class was supposed to have been gathered by 1935, wasn't it? When were these men born? Are we going to continually have a steady stream of new annointed ones, for the next 100 years? Will people begin to see through the ruse? | ||
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| SwordOfJah | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
I have not been able to confirm this news yet. I know some have very good contacts inside, can anyone confirm? If this news is true, this will cause a lot of talk among the brothers. It will be taken as a sign that the end is almost upon us. Many would have never imagined seeing the day that the governing body has a member of the other sheep. Will the annointed be called up soon? Is the F&DS preparing us for something? This will be a topic of discussion in many witness homes. | ||
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| Stealth | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
That presents the same problem the last few appointments have. Sure does, but that did not seem to upset very many JWs, so why should it now?
The Annointed class was supposed to have been gathered by 1935, wasn't it? YES
When were these men born? Don't know, but they have other members on GB and I personally know other anointed who are younger. You have this issue for anyone claiming to be anointed not just GB members.
Are we going to continually have a steady stream of new annointed ones, for the next 100 years? Probably.
Will people begin to see through the ruse? A few will, but not the majority.
98% of the anointed are bogus anyway, but that does not stop the true believers from ignoring facts.
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| jeeprube | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
98% of the anointed are bogus anyway, but that does not stop the true believers from ignoring factsVery true. | ||
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| Ingenuous | Re: Hot News-New GB members | |
Thanks for the article, Richie. I remember reading this, though it doesn't seem like it was 13 years ago. I would have been 15, almost baptized for a full year. I remember studying this article and seeing no logical parallel at all between the non-Israelite returnees and the GC, much less the groups they arbitrarily picked out to compare to certain men among the GC. I didn't understand why they dropped the "slaves" and "singers" part, but now I see that giving those groups equal consideration would have meant the possibility of putting women into positions with responsibility. And how do you tell a Nethinim from a plain old "other sheep?" (Is this just begging for a punchline???) Only for the briefest of moments did I entertain the thought {Bad JW! Bad, Bad JW!!} that this was just a way of dancing around the fact that they wanted to start using brothers from the GC in positions that were only supposed to be occupied by the "anointed." And when I read this: Finally, after the demise of Babylon the Great, all 144,000 ‘sealed ones’ will be in heaven for the marriage of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:1-3; 19:1-8) But now the other sheep must go on increasing. I felt my stomach drop. I had thought, up til then, that the system would end once the "anointed" were in heaven. After all, they were supposed to go there to rule as "kings and priests" over those of us with an "earthly hope." We had been taught for a long while that there would still be "anointed brothers of Christ" on the earth during the Great Tribulation. This seemed to be a loophole that allowed the possibility of "this wicked system" carrying on for who-knew-how-long while the 144,000 just lounged around in heaven for no good reason. But like the good JW (and kid) I was then, I pushed it all aside with the, "Well, someone in Brooklyn understands it, so I don't have to" clause. | ||
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