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avishaiInappropriate "shepherding" calls.

How many have recieved calls by the elders that were under the guise of "shepherding", but somehow inappropriate, i.e, you were a woman alone with only one elder showing up, or you felt physically intimidated by both.

Or say they show up at like, 10:30 at night for a shepherding call. And you say "Hey, I appreciate the visit but please call first! I have to work in the AM!" And they say "Well, the POLICE would'nt call first!!!! And you say "I thought you were just stopping by to say hi, but I need to go to bed, and start to shut the door and they stick their foot in the door and say "No, I think we're gonna come in!" Even when your an adult, and not baptized?

Anything like this ever happened to you? Any inappropriate elders visits? Sexual harrassment? Gestapo tactics?
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RichieRichRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

I know at my JC, they asked my mother to leave the room so they could "get through" to me... That means intimidate...

however, my family hasn't had a shepherding call in at least 5 years... hmm...
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DustinRe: Re: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
I used to hate it when they would come unanounced at times that didn't work. Then they would pull the same crap about how this was urgent, and could mean my life. I have a big middle-finger for their sheperding calls now. Fortunately, I will never have another one.
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avishaiRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
One of my fave responses was when they called on a self employed landscaper friend of mine, Aand said "WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU NOW!" and he said "I'm busy working, If you want to talk now, you can pick up a shovel and help shovel manure, this is peak season, and I'll talk. I need to feed my family as stated in such and so scripture" . They did'nt wanna get their suits dirty. He offered them coveralls and everything, still no dice. Hmmm.
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DustinRe: Re: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
That's awesome! Nothing like using one of their own scriptures to make them feel stupid.
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Dan-ORe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
When I moved to Tampa in 1982, I decided to attend some meetings even though my heart wasn't really into it. I figured it would be a way to tell whether my distate for dubdom was because I was being forced to attend ... and maybe if I attended of my own free will it might be better. So I went for a couple of months. And then I stopped.

A month or two after I stopped, I was home sick with the flu and there was a knock at the door. Two elders had stopped in to see why I hadn't been to the kingdumb hall for a while. We chatted for a bit, and then they left.

It wasn't so much an 'inappropriate' call, I suppose ... unless you consider a 2-on-1 situation inappropriate. I don't know if they thought they could embarrass or intimidate me. If so, they failed. I never heard from them again.
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ElsewhereRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

"No, I think we're gonna come in!"

Excuse me, but first Iet me make a quick phone call to the police to report a home invasion and trespassers.
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stillajwexelderRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
I was once counselled as a MS for making a shepherding call alone on a single sister
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ElsewhereRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

 
I was once counselled as a MS for making a shepherding call alone on a single sister
I certainly hope that you properly administered any needed spankings.
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orionRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
the elders were visiting my mom after i had  my baby, they were giving her a sheperding call for whatever reason. i was hoping to get out of the house before they showed up but I didn't make it. One of the first comments out of the brothers mouth was "how old is the baby", i answed, "and how long have you been married". He was trying to bring up the fact that my child was a basterd and I got married after when I should have been married in the first place. I was pissed off, my mom was irritated, but did she do anything????? NOPE....and life goes on.
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blondieRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

Thank goodness for security-locked buildings.  I love it when elders drop by unannounced and you say this is not a good time.  "We can come back in 30 minutes."  How do they think 30 minutes would make a difference; time for my boyfriend to leave!  Time to clear out the smell of cigarette smoke (or worse!).

Even after telling all the elders to call and make an appointment, they still just dropped by and got irritated when I wouldn't let them in suggesting I was hiding something; yah, my dirty house and unwashed hair.

During a DC a few years ago, it was demonstrated how to make a shepherding call and the first thing they did was call the sister and make an appointment.  You can bet that I hunted down every elder at the KH and asked them what they thought of that demonstration.  I told them after that if they stopped by without an appointment, I would consider that they were disobeying the WTS.

w96 3/15 p. 27 How Christian Shepherds Serve You ***

Before making a shepherding call, one elder phones and says, "I call on one family each month. Can I visit you for an hour or so sometime next month? When would this suit you?"

Suggestions for Shepherding Calls

· Make an appointment: It is usually good to make an appointment. If the elder plans to handle a serious problem, it would be proper to inform the publisher of this beforehand.

 

Of course, these are the written rules and then there are the unwritten rules.

Blondie
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damselflyRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

As a teen if I was at a fellow JW's house ( dad was an elder ) I was always sat down and counseled in regards to my behaviour. I also once got invited to supper at a friends house only to get there and find an elder waiting to "lead us back to the truth"

Never once came to my house though OR contacted my parents with what they wanted to counsel me about.

Damselfly
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mrsjones5Re: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
Or say they show up at like, 10:30 at night for a shepherding call. And you say "Hey, I appreciate the visit but please call first! I have to work in the AM!" And they say "Well, the POLICE would'nt call first!!!! And you say "I thought you were just stopping by to say hi, but I need to go to bed, and start to shut the door and they stick their foot in the door and say "No, I think we're gonna come in!" Even when your an adult, and not baptized?

Wow, did this really happen?  If it happened to me, that foot would have gotten broken.

Josie
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ButtLightRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

I had just one elder call on me!  And then the next time 2 elders and the co!  What a bunch of crap

 
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JHRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

I had the District overseer come and see me, and then the Zone overseer..... 

 
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ElsewhereRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
I had the District overseer come and see me, and then the Zone overseer..... 

Wow!  I didn't know they even let ZO's out! 

 
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JHRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

no zone overseer came  i was just kidding

whats higher than a zone overseer?

 

ozone overseer
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avishaiRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.
whats higher than a zone overseer?

Twighlight zone overseer?

alt 
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Doubtfully YoursRe: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

I heard of certain single young elder that liked to do "shepherding calls" to young widow sisters or those that had no husbands at home but did have young children.

One time, this same single young elder was caught walking to her door with a 6-pack of beer on hand.  Do you all think he was going to talk to her about how the holy spirit operates?!

When down the road he decided to marry somebody else, this widow sister he used to do "shepherding calls" to tried to commit suicide. 

DY  
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freedom96Re: Inappropriate "shepherding" calls.

I remember one time in particular, that they came to the house, and I simply told them this was not a good time.  They insisted on coming in still, but I wouldn't let them.  The look on their face was priceless.
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