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DogpatchCan you stand in court with a silent lamb?


Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

On November 11, 2003 Howard Kanhe a Jehovah's Witness in good standing was convicted of molesting his daughter, in addition, his step daughter also offered testimony of her molestation but her testimony was kicked out due to the statue of limitations in California. This was used as a basis to mount an appeal of the original sentencing.   When the younger daughter made known she was going to press charges her father beat her and afterward her Jehovah's Witness mother kicked her out of the home, she was forced to live in her car till her sisters offered assistance.  The mother has since disowned her three daughters (the sisters remain baptized JWs in good standing) remains married to the convicted child molester, goes to court to offer him support and is auxiliary pioneering this month.  Last Friday was to be the sentencing hearing and twenty plus Jehovah's Witnesses appeared to offer character statements for the convicted child molester.  They were dressed in their best clothes and carried Watchtowers that they studied during part of the court proceeding while giving negative looks to the victims of this pedophile.

This apparently is not a new practice of Jehovah's Witnesses please review this link to see two recent cases in which similar actions by Jehovah's Witnesses occurred.

 http://www.silentlambs.org/education/transcripts.cfm

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DogpatchRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

sorry, the rest of this...

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DogpatchRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

sorry I can't get this to post.

Randy

 
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DogpatchRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

As you see in the Erica Rodriguez case and the Paul Berry Case Jehovah's Witnesses offered character statements for convicted child molesters that remained members of the congregation.  There character statements for both men were very similar in which they first identified what a good worker the molester was how honest he was and how some would want him to baby sit their children.  It appears home office is coercing members into offering character statements for child molesters as well as offering them a guideline as to what to say.  If you were a child molester what better refuge could you have?

Apparently this information was part of the congregation record as well in that Howard Kanhe was disfellowshipped in the early summer of 2002 for confessing to child molestation yet he was reinstated latte summer of 2002 due to his great 'repentance.' At silentlambs we have to wonder how beating your victim when they attempt to press charges qualifies as repentance.

These young women should be supported and we are asking anyone that can to be there at the Riverside District court and stand with them on their side of the courtroom.  Up to this point they have stood alone against the intimidation tactics of the local Jehovah's Witnesses.  If you can come or support someone else to be there please send a donation to silentlambs.  Can you assist with airfare?  If so let us know as we have that that would like to be there that need assistance in this regard.

We are asking each person that attends to bring a toy lamb to represent the victims of abuse.  IF you wish to send a note of support to these young women you can do so at my email address.  we will be glad to see that they get it.

As with all events of silentlambs it is a grass root effort that comes together because people are moved from their hearts to do something.  If there was ever a time for this to happen this is one of them.  We ask for your help and support to not let these brave women stand alone.  If you can attend or help with this in anyway please contact silentlambs as quickly as possible or call 270-703-2257.

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blondieRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/80439/1.ashx

I posted part of it and provided the URL to silentlambs.

Not too many posts; not that means someone didn't contact them.

Blondie

http://www.silentlambs.org/education/transcripts.cfm

(see the URL at the top for continuation)

Location of courthouse

Friday, 11/12/04, 8:30 am

Directions

Contact

If you can attend or help with this in anyway please contact silentlambs as quickly as possible or call 270-703-2257.
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avishai Re: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
I'm looking into it, but I can't drive due to seizures, maybe I could take the train or catch a ride. I live in paradise/chico CA area. I'd love to help, in any way I can.
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CorvinRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
Last Friday was to be the sentencing hearing and twenty plus Jehovah's Witnesses appeared to offer character statements for the convicted child molester. They were dressed in their best clothes and carried Watchtowers that they studied during part of the court proceeding while giving negative looks to the victims of this pedophile.

Wow, this was just like the day I went into Court to get visitation modified so that all of my children's visits with their abusive JW mother and stepfather be supervised. Five "sisters" arrived with my ex-wife wearing their sunny print field service dresses, carrying their bookbags and holding Watchtower magazines in front of them like crucifixes to ward off vampires. It was creepy and disgusting, and a bit humorous. They also had each written letters to the judge filled with lies about me.

The judge saw through the lies and ordered no contact with mom and stepdad until an investigation could be completed, and the judge also ordered NO RELIGION, NO religious meetings, and no that no JW's were to discuss religious things with my kids, period.

The JW's will go to great lengths to protect their cult.

Here is the information and location for the continuance:

Riverside District Court

Address:
3470 Twelfth Street
Riverside, CA 92501
Phone:
(951) 328-4450
Directions:
From Los Angeles: Take the San Bernardino Freeway (10) east to the (215) south to the (91) west (the sign will read "Beach Cities"). Go one mile, then exit on 14th Street. Turn right onto 14th Street. Make a right turn onto Lime Street. Make a left turn onto 12th Street. Court is located at 3470 Twelfth Street. Parking is available at 3535 12th Street.
From Orange County: Take the (55) Freeway north to the (91) Freeway east. Exit on 14th Street. Turn left onto 14th Street. Make a right turn onto Lime Street. Make a left turn onto 12th Street. Court is located at 3470 Twelfth Street. Parking is available at 3535 12th Street.
Parking:
One and two hour parking is available on Main Street.

 

Court information,

Action Date Action Text Disposition Hearing Type
11/12/2004 8:30 AM
DEPT. 52 HEARING ON REMITTITUR  ACTIVE    
11/08/2004 8:30 AM
DEPT. 52 HEARING ON REMITTITUR DISPOSED    
  Minutes
  HONORABLE J. THOMPSON HANKS PRESIDING.

COURTROOM ASSISTANT: HRC-H. CHAVEZ

COURT REPORTER: TW-T. WEBSTER

PEOPLE REPRESENTED BY DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY JOHN HENRY.

DEFENDANT REPRESENTED BY PVT-FRANK WILLIAMS.

DEFENDANT PRESENT.

AT 10:01, THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD:

COURT AND COUNSEL CONFER REGARDING: PERSON TO ADDRESS THE COURT IS NOT PRESENT

HEARING CONTINUED TO 11/12/2004 AT 8:30 IN DEPARTMENT 52 PURSUANT TO STIPULATION OF COUNSEL.

DEFENDANT ORDERED TO RETURN.

BAIL TO REMAIN AS FIXED.

REMAINS REMANDED TO CUSTODY OF RIVERSIDE SHERIFF.

MINUTE ORDER PRINTED TO ROBERT PRESLEY DETENTION CENTER.



Corvin

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ElsewhereRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

If I were ever called to be a part of a trial where I knew the people envolved, I would without hesitation.

 
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BryanRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

Am I missing something?

Where is the courthouse... California?

Thanks,

Bryan
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CorvinRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

Yes, Brian.  It is in Riverside, California.

I will be there for sure.

 

Corvin
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BryanRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

Thanks.

It would be tough for me to be in CA that fast.
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avishaiRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
bttt
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candidlynutsRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

(assuming she's telling the truth cuz why the heck anyone would lie and go thru such torment is beyond me!)

am i understanding this right? other jw's are standing up for this man that is accused of molestation? going against the victim? siding with abusive parents that would cast their child out in the night?

who the heck knows what goes on behind closed doors. geez

i hope the girl in question gets her day in court and has her own supporters with her. i cant imagine how hard it would be to do take someone to court, let alone her father and to have the mother  mother and the whole congregation standing with  HIM! UGH . she's got some cajones that gal! good luck to her. corvin you take a lot of voices with  you if you do make it there.. let your voice , posters, letters reflect the sound of all those who want justice for her.
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avishaiRe: Re: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
BTTT
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EnglishmanRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

Corvin,

You've been warned before about posting mocking comments alongside pics of JW's. I have deleted your post.

Enough. Next time sees you suspended.

Englishman.

 
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catchthisRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
You've been warned before about posting mocking comments alongside pics of JW's.
Ahhhh, so that is what happened to Corvin's thread on the KH picketing.  I was wondering where that went.
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CorvinRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

Englishman, in the US we have Freedom of Speech and of Press.  What I did has no legal ramifications here, and even if taken to court it would be thrown out.  You astound me with your attitude and censorship.  Guess the UK and its laws are a bit prudish?

If you are going to suspend me, just suspend me.  Next time, take it to pm instead of publicly making a threat and throwing your weight around, which distracts from the spirit of the thread.  You could have at least left the words and deleted the pic, but I guess you had to teach me a lesson.  You really are something. You act in the spirit of straining out the nat and gulping down the camel.  You do more to impede progress than you do to help.

Corvin
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EnglishmanRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
Englishman, in the US we have Freedom of Speech and of Press. 

That doesn't give you the right to post pics of people who are exercising their right to worship as they choose to. In particular it doesn't give you the right to post mocking comments about them on a site that doesn't belong to you. You've been asked to stop doing this by the wife of the forum owner who was courteous enough to request this via IM. You chose to ignore her request and continued to post pics of JW's accompanied by your own personal mocking comments. Now you're being stopped from continuing in this course of action.

Englishman.

 
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MulanRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?
Englishman, in the US we have Freedom of Speech and of Press.  What I did has no legal ramifications here, and even if taken to court it would be thrown out. 

Don't be too sure of that, Corvin.  There is freedom of speech and press, but some things still require permission.

In any case, on this forum, it isn't allowed.
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ozziepostRe: Can you stand in court with a silent lamb?

This may be an opportune moment to express that there is a united approach from forum administrators and assistants alike to the posting guidelines.

OK now where were we......

Now that we're completely off-topic, back to Randy's original post.

Cheers, Ozzie
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