XQsThaiPoes	Re: Re: So is there a new stance on B-days or what? Someone please explain........
	Ill tell you the truth. Yes and No. Yes they said (this july) that birthdays and x-mas and other holidays were okay if they did not have pagan rituals connected with them in your neck of the woods (I guess that depends on your view of pagan). That noted JWs in my area have did memorial day, 4th of july (going to fire works shows), thanks giving, and B-days sans fan fair and decorations for a while. Graduations oddly are celebrated like birthdays and can get quite wild.  Baptisms were celebrated in simular fashion until the CO threw the book are us. I guess it is the decorations that must be pagan. In an odd twist worldly people are abandoning holloween. Officially I believe it is for the jw's concience to decide as long as it does not stumble anyone in the area (including wordly people). Since stumbling people can get you DFed it is more about does anyone know about it or object to it where you live. Thats the real truth people celebrate what they can get away with. Usually with out decoratioons so they don't have to destroy incriminating evidence. Reminds me of the stories of bookstudys in banned lands. Where they would put up decorations so if they got caught they would say it was a birthday.
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